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Thread: ELiTE PvP Carabineers REPLY Please

CGB
Thu Sep 04, 2003 9:35 pm
#1

I recently have been getting pissed with the **edit** pistol professions like pistoleer. The profession is so broke that I want to get rid of pistol as a skill and invest in carbine. I love PvP, so I am aiming my character towards this now and Combat Medic. Points are scarce, so I wanted to know what would make me very dangerous with a carbine (i.e. type of carbine, skills to invest in, short reason why). I appreciate your time. Thanks. If this is not a good PvP profession, please let me know.
MadBarbarian
Thu Sep 04, 2003 9:39 pm
#2

not now...we cant shoot worth crap while running so you wont be able to chase them to their deaths.



otherwise it WOULD have been a good PvP choice, high damage, fast speed, but high HAM.




Thorin Kinslee- Loyal to the Empire
SOJ
Thu Sep 04, 2003 10:06 pm
#3

I wouldn't suggest carbineer as a PVP profession. It seems the only use for a carbine these days is to use a BH carbine knockdown and then switch to the pistol for Torso or Eye Shot. Stopping Shot also seems to be along the same power as crippling shot, but needs +90 speed to be useful.
SerusMournstar
Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:26 am
#4

Hello, I am a master carbineer and I also have the bounty hunter carbine tree. I love pvp with my carbine. I hit them first with knockdown fire, then finish them off with crippling shot. I usually fire about 3 or 4 shots by the time my opposition fires 1. My accuracy is great even when running. The rebels in Moenia make great pray...



Flurry
Master Scout
Master Marksman
Master Carbineer
Bounty Hunter 3-4-0-0
Krazy8s
Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:05 am
#5

Well, after the patch if we want to stay carbineers we should all go carb in BH too if we want to actually win in pvp...........



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Kraze||Master Teras Kasi Artist||Master Pistoleer


Kaellok
Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:05 am
#6

keep pistoleer, grab smuggler too. tha'ts my suggestion for ya...friend that's master smuggler/almost master pistoleer has only been killed in PvP twice. once by an at-st, once by a combat medic's mind-poison through several buildings and only at max range.
MCPP
Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:35 am
#7

ok, one guy on here actually made a good argument


crippling shot owns,,, 3 shots and they are dead, at the maximum. often times they die in 1. yes being a master carbineer is good.. bt DUH!!! being a bounty hunter on top of it is good !! **edit** is with the people that complain about BH gettign better carbine and pistol skills than pistoleers and carbineers? oh wait, it is true that if you just go BH you get the same speed and accuracy buffs as if you just did either of the other trees which seems a bit wrong, since it only uses 1 branch to equal the others 4 branches... but you get a bunch of other defense asnd skills as well being a carbineer or pistoleer. My advice.. as a master pistoleer master carbineer.... get carbineer and get BH carbine tree as well. screw switching to eye shot or switching to anything, in pvp carbine kills in 3 shots or less if you do things right. and switching weapons just takes too much effort. lol. my actually suggestion for you is, find a high lvl carbineer on your server... ask them to shoot you using thier preffered special attack, ask them to shoot you with different attacks. if you like the resaults then go carbine.... but just so you know i worked the pistol tree and the carbine tree. more so than anything pistol starts out fast and keeps being fast slowly increaseing the damage you do towards the top of the skill tree. getting a BH scatter pistol and eye shotting is crazy strong when done repeatedly fast. but also crip-shotting 1 shot kills is also amazing. I changed over to carbine a ways back when i realized that once worked to the top of the tree your pistol speed increase is so high that you max out befor you get to the top of the tree.. ie after a certain point you are no longer increaseing the speed at which yo fire, so using a slower pistol but higher power was better, like the scatter.... but then you end up getting more power at the same speed if you just max out the carbine trees in bh and carbineer. end resault? at the max levels a carbine will shoot as fast as a pistol with more damage. it is because the speed increase is based on a % but has a minimum time of 1 sec.just get carbine if you are going to do BH too, if not, it is still good, but most of the carbine tree is wang,,, lol

SOJ
Fri Sep 05, 2003 6:35 am
#8

I've been a Master BH Carbine / Master Carbineer for a very, very long time now. Although Crippling Shot is very nice and that it can kill them in a few hits or so... so can Eye Shot. Except Eye Shot is usuallymore efficiently with less HAM costs. Also, it takes no effort to switch weapons with a macro.


Often times in PVP, Crippling Shot could do very low amounts of damage and the opponent could just heal any damage back with StimB's. However, for the most part, Crippling Shot is a very nice attack with a good, sliced weapon with a good powerup. It really depends if you want to pick up the carbineer class for that skill and go with BH the rest of the way. Also, the +speed you want to pick up is +90 or so.

Chikitta
Fri Sep 05, 2003 10:29 am
#9

I still swear by carbines in PvP, but I know alot of people don't like them.
I've currently got most of the carbineer tree, bounty carbine II and some medic skills.

Underhand shot is great, and I hit them with actionshot 1 and 2 when they are down. Hit again with a few legshots or crippling shots, then KD and heal if they aren't already down.

Having decent stims (Cs or Ds) is essential for carbine PvP though - the HAM costs are so demanding on the action pool that you usually need to heal atleast once per fight.



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Chikitta
MCPP
Fri Sep 05, 2003 10:30 am
#10

yeah eithewr way you look at it getting the BH tree in adition to pistol/carbine mkes you way stronger. eye shot is really strong since it lowers thier accuracy and als hits the mind pool fo unhealable damage. what i was commenting on was using a well made/well sliced/ laser carbine with a tuned muzzle of sighting on it (32%-16% max-min dmg). with this and crippling shot it is almost 1 shot one kill in pvp, on average i would say it does 600-1200 damage with most shots hitting for 900. granted this isnt the "lets take 10 paces and shoot" kinda dueling attack, but when you bust into a bunch of enemy pvpers getting off the first few shots is really good when they are that strong.
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