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Thread: Why is a Pure Carbineer Outgunned by Other Professions? Take a Look

Philosopher1976
Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:06 pm
#1

On SWG Discussion I analyzed the way speed works in the game ... with some interesting results. The bottom line is that "pure" pistoleers and carbineers are totally outgunned in terms of damage per second. Take a look at the data/analysis, and post a reply letting me know what you think:


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Development&message.id=483889






Samra Hael
Master Pistoleer • Expert Bounty Hunter
KOTOR • Scylla


agerg
Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:17 pm
#2

the "Pure" professions such as carbineer and pistoleer are outgunned by let's say, bounty hunter, because they are masters of their weapon TACTICS not masters of their WEAPON itself... bounty hunters are masters of WEAPONS but not tactic... seeing as how carbineers get a more variety on their skills, a combination of skills can be more devastating... but it's how the game works... the profession style decides how deadly you really can be




Xitri
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Hero_DarkJedi
Fri Sep 05, 2003 4:12 pm
#3

Greets ...


Number lie.


The commando weapon ... that uber one that does all that damge?


A) You have to be 16m from the target


B) It's limited use ... 30 charges and then you have to get another weapons ... not cheap to use


Stuff like that is not in thoses types of reports ... I didn't bother to read all of it cause it didn't take either of those 2 things into consideration, which are the direct dev responses to the LBC being so powerful ... and the dev is right.


When you compare a Commando against a Carbineer you are comparing Apples and Oranges. (or bounty hunter for that matter).


How many skill points did you spend to get your Carbineer master? I full master and 1 tree.


Commandos? 2 full masters and 1 tree


Bounty Hunters? 3 full masters.


You can not and should not try to compare Commando to Carbineer ... we have not invested the skill points they have ... or BH's have.


We will get our "pass" and they will fix us ... probaby make the elite carbine truly elite ... who knows ... but straight number reports on guns ... at 2.5 months into the game is just nuts ... anybody doing that has lost sight of the big picture ... and all the little nuisances as well.


I guess it's the difference between painting a picture using a brush used to paint a house vs a brush used to do fine painting on porcelin dolls.


Hero out





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Phrakture
Fri Sep 05, 2003 4:58 pm
#4

Carbineers are outgunner by TKA's as we stand now.



Dr. Phrakture, D.D.S. Combat Medic, Surgeon, Carbineer - Starsider
Korlion
Fri Sep 05, 2003 5:10 pm
#5

first off let me say i have nothing against other classes, that stated let me start.


you people need to shut up with the "they used more skill points" crap. yes we use less skill points,but we spend more skill points doing one thing than any of the "mixed" classes do.


bh do not need to master bh to be a great pistot or carbineer user. plus they get all the scout skills and all the marksman pros. they also get droid use and bh missions that pay well.and great defense,etc stats.


commandos is about the same as bh now. they get the use of different types of weapons and other pluses.


so the skill points usedcan not be used as a defense for why they out gun a person who should know his weapon inside and out.


if you think it still fits as a defense then you are stupid,or someone whois of those classes(lol).

Kaellok
Sat Sep 06, 2003 6:19 am
#6

he said to ignore the high-damaging new weapons for now, since that's not what he was concerned with and they were new. read before you flame, it'll save you shame
Lenaic
Sat Sep 06, 2003 6:32 am
#7

how can someone say that they pay too much for limited charge weapons when the weapon can do 4k-6k dmg and that's BASE dmg not actual combat dmg, and if it costs say... 50k? for one of those... that's only 2 missions on Endor which might take maybe .... MAYBE 5 shors per lair.... therefore that 2nd excuse is not viable, plus the rocketlaunchers and heavy particle beam are NOT 16m range like the flamethrowers are.



Lieutenant Lenaic Lightstream
Rebel Master Carbineer/Investigator
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