Carbineer Archive
Thread: Btw, is the Empire a moron or retarded in that all St's use carbines ?
almost ALL stormtroopers we saw in the movies were using carbines , especially in the episodes that came first to silver screens.
my question is this, is the empire a total collection of morons who cant decide what weapon is good and what is bad, or they just chose to implement carbine as the main st weapon just to help rebels defeat them - stormtroopers would kill themselves with their weapons.
it this aint so, and if this game is SUPPOSED to be a representation of the sw universe, WHY are a carbinein the gameis just the equivalent
See this is where the devs have their heads up their asses. They made Pistols and Rifles the uberweapons of the game and left the Soldiers primary arm a Carbine to the dust.
Thing is have you noticed what kind of damage ST's can do with their carbines? A SuperTrooper used Burst Shot 2 on me for 1100 points of damage. GOD I hope Burst shot2 when fixed does that kind of PVP damage for me.
actually they are using E11 Rifles....
the line between rifles and carabines is blurry. Notice how there is an E11 carabine and an E11 rifle, both have the same model only the carabine version is faster and the rifle version is slower with a bit higher damage and higher mind costs...
In the movies and fan fiction ranged weapons are either Blaster Pistols or Blaster Rifles
oh and btw I can comfterably say, after having a Rifle character anda Carbine character, that Carabine is superior to Rifle. :::: ETOUQ
MOSTLY RIGHT!
but......."In the movies and fan fiction ranged weapons are either Blaster Pistols or Blaster Rifles"
thats rong. in JK2 JEDI OUTCAST some of the ST diologe includes mention of BLASTER CARBINE'S,that are much better then there E11's.
and in the visual dictionary(the original one) it listed the EE-3 as a laser carbine
actually they are using E11 Rifles....
the line between rifles and carabines is blurry. Notice how there is an E11 carabine and an E11 rifle, both have the same model only the carabine version is faster and the rifle version is slower with a bit higher damage and higher mind costs...
In the movies and fan fiction ranged weapons are either Blaster Pistols or Blaster Rifles
oh and btw I can comfterably say, after having a Rifle character anda Carbine character, that Carabine is superior to Rifle.
When holding a rifle you take 2.5x damage from melee - notice how most of the stuff you fight in this game is melee. Uh oh.... (you will be running from the wamp rats)
Rifles have piss poor accuracy. They cant hit stuff at close range, they get -50 accuracy. But it seems -50 accuracy for rifles is different than -50 accuracy for other weapons. When I'm holding an EE3 or DH17 and I have -50 accuracy while running from 50 meters, I still hit half or more of the time. If I try that with rifle, you dont hit, period.
You can forget about moving while shooting, also. I was amazed when I started my carabine character how I could hit stuff while running... and i didnt even have to change postures and stuff.
You drain massive amounts of mind. Carbines drain large amounts of Action and Health (health more with EE3s and DH17s). Rifles drain less of those pools, and drain mind instead. A headshot3 with a laser rifle or a T-21 will put you back 100-200 mind EASY. You cant heal mind. 5-12 shots depending on your mind stats and you are sitting down.
You fire slow. So if you miss, you get to play the waiting game.
Your damage per second is low. Although you can pull off a higher damage shot than a pistol user, the pistol user fires for half of your damage (or more), 4 times faster than you, without missing.
For this reason you get owned in PvP. BHs hit your mind pool faster and more accurately then you hit the mind pool. You'll most likely miss, and if you go prone they just close in on you and you're **edit**ed. Before the 75% pvp damage reduce patch things were good for riflemen becasue they could one, two, or three hit people depending on the size of their mind. Now they barely scratch the person target, which in turn runs up, gets in their face and its a GG.
MORAL OF THE STORY:
NO MATTER HOW BAD YOU THINK YOUR CLASS HAS IT, AT LEAST YOU'RE NOT A RIFLEMAN.
im a pistoleer working up the carbine tree in adition to keeping pistoleer im only 4 boxes into carbine and aready im closesing the dam gap im doing spicals at novice that are comparable to stoping shot
although slower but im anticapateing that at marster carbineer the skill will be as enjoyable as pistoleer
as for the ham costs carry a crate or two of sunshine you dont even notice the ham costs than. i also use this with my pistols
i dont know, from what i have seen of carbineer itis a worthy skill to learn i look forward to trying my skills out in pvp when i have marstered it