Carbineer Archive

thats it ill go mad if i continu with our hedfdf carbineer class... high ham coss...low dmg...and we get more kinetic dmg.....so to the hell carbineer...im going to be a tka

I wouldn't say we have low damage, but the rest yeah =).

I can hit for upwards of 5-7000 in PvP(with armor bonuses + knockdown). I'm not sure how our DPS is compared to other professions, but I dont think it's too off. Our AP bonuses tend to make up for lacking speed.

ive said low dmg because pistoleer can do as and even more dmg than us with lower ham cost etc...

Actually I think thats not true. Pistoleers can't do more damage than us really. I think thats impossible. We have one of the highest damage multiplier attacks in the game(Crippling 7.5x or so), second maybe only to strafe shot 2.

I think the best pistoleer shot(damage wise) is stopping shot and its around 5x maybe?

They may do near equal damage in your combat screen, but factor in AP 2 with a laser carbine vs the normal AP 0 of most pistols, and we will do quite a bit more damage.

Now damage per second, or DPS, we might lose, but as far as pure damage goes in like one shot, I think we beat out pistoleers.

Not arguing about HAM costs, everyone knows ours suck =).

Actually, I've seen a scatter pistol that has an AP 1 with .9 spd and 150-550 dmg. That's more damage than the best carbines and obviously better speed. There's something not quite right about that.

That also doesnt belong to pistoleers.

Scatter = BH.

I was just arguing pistoleers can't out damage us. BH's obvsiouly can due to LCC or even Scatter.

Alot of BH pistols go into the pistoleer line - for more speed/aim bonuses...

as for the 7k PvP - errr 7k, ummmm what specials do you use?

I've also seen a 1.3 spd 100-350 dmg Krayt FWG5. Note how it's easily better than a carbineer's best carbine.

on intrepid, we have yamans 150-700 0.4 FWG5s (those arent exact stats, but close). Yep, thats right. waht was that you said about pistoleers not outdamaging carbineers? stopping shot is a 6.0x modifier i believe (thats what my MPistoleer friend told me) and they shoot WAY faster, and for less HAM. and even without an uber pistol, they definetly still outdamage us in DPS, which is what really counts. sure we can do more in 1 shot, but if we take off 300 HAM and shoot 3 times slower than they do, does it really help?

i'm 2 boxes away from master carbineer, and i'm sticking with it till the end (gonna drop CH for my holocron profs), hoping that we will get a fix. but i'm not expecting anything too revolutionary from THESE devs

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Aram1 wrote:

I wouldn't say we have low damage, but the rest yeah =).

I can hit for upwards of 5-7000 in PvP(with armor bonuses + knockdown). I'm not sure how our DPS is compared to other professions, but I dont think it's too off. Our AP bonuses tend to make up for lacking speed.

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Um shanagans.

I have a kryat laster carbine with a 34% damage slice, max damage is like 689 powered up, I have never hit for more than 5700 in PvE while a target is KD and never more than around 1200 in PvP.

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Aram1 wrote:

Actually I think thats not true. Pistoleers can't do more damage than us really. I think thats impossible. We have one of the highest damage multiplier attacks in the game(Crippling 7.5x or so), second maybe only to strafe shot 2.

I think the best pistoleer shot(damage wise) is stopping shot and its around 5x maybe?

They may do near equal damage in your combat screen, but factor in AP 2 with a laser carbine vs the normal AP 0 of most pistols, and we will do quite a bit more damage.

Now damage per second, or DPS, we might lose, but as far as pure damage goes in like one shot, I think we beat out pistoleers.

Not arguing about HAM costs, everyone knows ours suck =).

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I get spamed with stoping shot for 4-500 dmg every second in PvP on a regular basis. Much higher dmg than my cripling shot or burst shot 2 which is going to hit every 3-4 seconds for 3-400. And last ditch is a smuggler skill that can also be spamed every second and I see do 5-900 dmg on a non-kd PvP target every second.

TH reinforced the truth that they are not going to balance pistols aginst the other weapons becuase there are a lot of people who use them. SWG is loosing subscriptions left and right so they can't afford to piss any more people off. He specificly said that they were going to buff up the FWG5 because it was getting nerfed by a FIX to the crafting of the gun and since so many people were upset by this they would rebuff it back to where it stood previously due to it being such a popular weapon.

I am sorry but that is **edit***NG BULL SH*T.

They fix a gun and potentially bring it back in line with rifles and carbines but since so many people cry about it getting nerfed they get to have their uber weapon back? They are adding a feed mechinism that will add damage with the same range of kryat tissues, welcome back uber pistols.