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Thread: Full auto single

Zyzix564
Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:38 pm
#1
Is my full auto single attack the ability that is stunning and making my targets blinded and dizzy?



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jfang
Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:42 pm
#2
As per the thread STICKIED on the top of the forum (which I think could be named better, but that's just me), "yes".


Despite answering your question, you really should look at the thread, there is *lots* of good information there...




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Zyzix564
Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:44 pm
#3

This is very helpful thanks



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TAfirehawk
Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:37 pm
#4
Read the FAQ.....


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DarthHossith
Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:10 pm
#5
My luck with burstshot is that it doesn't seem to be all that effective in comparison to fullautosingle2. Fullautosingle2 seems to wipe out just about anything... then throw a chargeshot1 in there while they are dizzy... whoo... let them try to get back up ((Please note, this is PvE for me, no PvP for me))



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Hav0c
Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:27 am
#6
BurstShot is for those on a HAM budget. Otherwise FAS2 is teh win.



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Alastor_Ragna
Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:39 am
#7

Ok guys , please explain me something , Burst shot 2 its a area shot right?! and the must damaging also , isnt Full auto a single shoot ( 1 and 2 ) and even less damaging than the burst 2?! why pick the FASS ?!



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jfang
Fri Jul 02, 2004 7:39 am
#8

Yes, burst shot 2 does more damage than full auto single 2. However, it also has a much slower shooting speed. So damage per shotmight behigher, but damage per second (a more important measure) is lower than full auto single 2. Cross that with states, and until you hit speed cap FAS2 is much better than burstshot2 against a single enemy. The exceptions is if you are on a shot budget, the most common reasons for this being HAM costs, or using a powerup.


When youattack a group of enemies, that changes. But then the general impression I get is that the states from a FAA usually outweigh the reduced damage...


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Alastor_Ragna
Fri Jul 02, 2004 8:51 am
#9
Im thinking on dabbling on BH tree , so speed is caped , i still think that the burst shot 2 is the best shot for a guy caped ( bellow the speed cap it may be a little offbalance )




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TAfirehawk
Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:23 am
#10

Once again we get off track....you CAN NOT compare a single target special with a multi-target special......come on people.....


Compare FullAutoArea2 with BurstShot2 or FullAutoSingle2 with BurstShot1/CripplingShot......but DO NOT mix them as you can NOT compare DPS between the two groups of specials.





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Rorenikibi
Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:32 am
#11
FullAutoArea 1 and 2 are the cone versions of FullAutoSingle 1 and 2.


BurstShot1 is an economy version of FAS1&2 with no state effects.


BurstShot2 is an economy version of FAA1&2 with no state effects.




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jfang
Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:36 am
#12





Rorenikibi wrote:

FullAutoArea 1 and 2 are the cone versions of FullAutoSingle 1 and 2.


BurstShot1 is an economy version of FAS1&2 with no state effects.


BurstShot2 is an economy version of FAA1&2 with no state effects.






That's just it. I double checked the specials list, and BurstShot2 is *not* an economy version of FAA. It is more DPS than the FAA series. So, it appears that FAA is more popular because of the states, not the damage.


*I was comparing FAS to Burstshot2 because burstshot2 does more dps than burstshot1. Like I said in my post though, the comparison is invalid when you get into a group setting. However, even if you are fighting 1-1, burstshot2 is better than burstshot1, so it is not unreasonable to compare the DPS of burstshot2 to FAS, even if it is somewhat counter-intuitive (and not applicable much of the time).*


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Edit: Just reverified the section in *. Burstshot2 is strictly inferior against a single enemy than burstshot1. So I was mistaken in making the comparison. Don't mind me...

Message Edited by jfang on 07-02-2004 01:39 PM

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