Carbineer Archive
Thread: state defense or melee defense
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Actairr
Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:06 am
#1
I want to take some pistoleer to supliment my carbineer should I go with 0041 for the state defenses (blind, dizzy - 40, kd 50, pos ch 20) or should I go with 0014 for the extra 30 in melee defense?
Message Edited by Actairr on 01-25-2005 09:47 AM
Feomatar
Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:53 am
#2
In the medic template i'd change 1440 carbineer in 1404... in my opinion the carbineer defenses together with the burstshots aren't as useful as Chargeshot2 and Fullautoarea2... 
The template with 1444 carbineer instead of medic is more viable since in pvp you'll mostly die because of your mind (not healable) anyway. 
Actairr
Tue Jan 25, 2005 2:27 pm
#3
i guess i should have said that I will have bh carbs also which is why I dont need the charge shot since I like bh KD better anyway. Good point about medic though with all the mind killing going on.
orange5
Tue Jan 25, 2005 3:40 pm
#4
Actairr wrote:
i guess i should have said that I will have bh carbs also which is why I dont need the charge shot since I like bh KD better anyway.
better than Chargeshot? hmm
TAfirehawk
Tue Jan 25, 2005 4:10 pm
#5
State Defenses are viewed as more effective in a lot of situations, mostly PvP.....and you really need more than +80 Melee/Ranged Defense to make a difference.
Actairr
Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:09 pm
#6
BH kd is much better imo than carbineer one. I think I will go with the state defenses thanks.
wilibus
Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:24 pm
#7
Really Depends, i wouldn't bother with the state defences unless you can get them over +80 or so. No defence mod is really worth anything unless you go all out.
Actairr
Wed Jan 26, 2005 5:17 am
#8
i did the math and here it is
Choice one: Range def- 96, melee def- 56, def v PC 50
Choice two: Range def- 82, melee def- 52, def v PC- 20, Def vs Diz- 40, def v stun- 40, def vs blind 40.
Both choices have the same V. intim 25 and V kd 65.
Choice one: Range def- 96, melee def- 56, def v PC 50
Choice two: Range def- 82, melee def- 52, def v PC- 20, Def vs Diz- 40, def v stun- 40, def vs blind 40.
Both choices have the same V. intim 25 and V kd 65.
mrmark200000
Wed Jan 26, 2005 11:25 am
#9
Actairr wrote:
I want to take some pistoleer to supliment my carbineer should I go with 0041 for the state defenses (blind, dizzy - 40, kd 50, pos ch 20) or should I go with 0014 for the extra 30 in melee defense?
Message Edited by Actairr on 01-25-2005 09:47 AM
to be quite honest, melee defense and ranged defense are only that usefull if you stack it all the way. from my experiances, i think it would be better off to get the state defenses if your doing PvP. cause players will hit ya anyway........or you could get the melee defense if your a PvE freak
wilibus
Wed Jan 26, 2005 11:57 am
#10
Actairr wrote:
i did the math and here it isChoice one: Range def- 96, melee def- 56, def v PC 50Choice two: Range def- 82, melee def- 52, def v PC- 20, Def vs Diz- 40, def v stun- 40, def vs blind 40.Both choices have the same V. intim 25 and V kd 65.
Check out Kodan's prof calc, it will definitely help a lot. Also what kind of a template are you looking at as far as other skills are concerned?
TAfirehawk
Wed Jan 26, 2005 12:08 pm
#11
wilibus wrote:
Actairr wrote:
i did the math and here it isChoice one: Range def- 96, melee def- 56, def v PC 50Choice two: Range def- 82, melee def- 52, def v PC- 20, Def vs Diz- 40, def v stun- 40, def vs blind 40.Both choices have the same V. intim 25 and V kd 65.
Check out Kodan's prof calc, it will definitely help a lot. Also what kind of a template are you looking at as far as other skills are concerned?
There is a link to it in the FAQ too
Actairr
Wed Jan 26, 2005 5:04 pm
#12
Well I am gonna be a bh 0400 and carbs master. Then either rifle and pistols for state defense and melee/range or fencer for the same. Fencer is the first combo listed with the higher melee and range defense, pistol/rilfe is the second one with the higher states defense. I think I am gonna go with pistol/rifle because range stackers are rare as far as I can tell.
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