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I'm a novice carbineer at 2011 and I was wondering if I should go up marksmanship to get cripple shot or counterinsurgency to get burst shot. Wild and Scatter shot suck to me based on personal experience, so your personal experience with cripple shot and burst shot 2 would be appreciated =).

my current tree is 0 3 0 1, and i speak from experience when i say that crippling shot is very very nice. from what i understand, it's pretty much the same as burst shot 2, only does a bit more damage. i average about 1150 damage with crippling shot with my dxr6, and with my laser carbine my range (that i've seen) is 250-3000 (all these numbers are PvE). you may be able to do just as well with burst shot 2 though. not totally sure.

ScatterShot 1 kinda sucks I agree, butwhen you getScatterShot 2 , you willbe amazed thedamage it does. similar / outdamaging crippling shot and more effective since it does either 1 pool or 2 pools or all 3 pools at once. On a laser I've done 300-3500, on average 2000+ . I would suggest not continuing or dropping the burstshot line since that whole line is useless & counteratk is not workingand get the marksmanship line for crippling shot instead

Scatter Shot 1 isn't very good, yes, but like stated above.. Scatter Shot 2 is very, very nice. It does a lot more damage. However, Crippling Shot does out damage it but targets a single pool. Scatter Shot 2 seems to spread it's damage between two or even three of the bars but it can hit hard in just one bar or hit pretty hard in both or all three.

From my experiences and from what I tested and have SShots of, Burst Blast (Burst Shot 2) has a marginal increase, if any, over Burst Shot 1 and costs much more HAM to use. Basically, Burst Shot 1 is as good as it gets on that skill line with counter-attack not working as well as planned.

Since your so close to Scatter Shot 2, and seeing how it's pretty good, I think it'd do you wonders. But I must end this by saying that Crippling Shot is a very high damage move.

scattershot2 is a good one, i dont regret going up the assault skill line first.

btw, if youjust got novice carbineer how can you say that scattershot2 sucks "in my experience"?

Ahem... I only have scatter shot 1. When did I say I had scatter shot 2...

So does Scatter Shot 2 have a potential to hit harder in one pool than burst shot? And also, if you could, compare the damage in one pool to crippling shot.

If Scatter Shot 2 hit one pool, it'd do far more damage than Burst Shot 1 and 2. I'd have to say, on one pool, that crippling shot would do a good bit more damage.. but it's very close. With a gun laser carb, on a good scatter 2 shot on one pool, it could hit around 2800 quite easily. Crippling can do over 3k. I would say that they are pretty close, but crippling beats it in damage especially done to a single pool. But scatter shot 2 is still very good. You won't regret getting it at all.

Thanks for your opinions SOJ et al. I'm going to go murder Scharnaffs while I still can and hopefully get enough carbine exp to get scatter shot 2.

I tested the scattershot2 vs crippleshot thing a while back, basically the result was that scattershot kills mobs a tad more reliably in the same amount of hits, but most of the time cripple shot will end up killing them faster. Something like 8 out of 10 mobs cripple shot would kill the mobs 1 or 2 hits faster than scatter2. (tested on 3600ham mobs)

Er, and to clarify that "more reliably" a bit, scatter2 was always killing the mobs in 6-7 hits opposed to crippling shot going from2 to 8 shots (the 8 ones were very very rare though.. but so were the 2 shot kills)

Ahem... I only have scatter shot 1. When did I say I had scatter shot 2...