Carbineer Archive
Thread: the dev screw us again
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Satahl
Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:18 am
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Thunderheart wrote:
...Clearly the community wants us to do a better job at delivering the game service and this reinforced our decision to make sure we have adequate resources on each update to the game.
The team’s goals are to increase the quality of the service... we agree with the community that our design and implementation process should continue to be improved...
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SOE, I don't want to give you a back-handed compliment, and I do think this statement is very well appreciated, mature and professional; but being able to deliver live software updates reliably, well documented and tested for an online service is pretty much a level 1 requirement. You guys have done a tremendous job this past year, but fundamentally with 100,000+ paying subscribers you never should have had the problems you did. And I don't understand why you have to shift resources to improve core architecture or support services (CM/RM, QA, Ops). You already should have a mature release management and QA process, and a stable library set to customize (for new content). If not, please get it together. It's a great game, but these problems undermine your ability to deliver.
Customers feel a really big difference I think between loving SWG and coping with SOE. We don't like your corporate culture, but love this product.
Also, I thought you used contractors from WingCommander and others for JTL. It's been stated publicly that it was a "separate" team working uniquely on JTL that would not interfere with other initiatives. What happened?
Thanks again for the announcement. Clarity is always appreciated.
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S O L N, "There's no mystical energy field that controls my destiny."
Explorer/Confronter
Seeing as Jedi and CH got "balanced" (CH's MONTHS ago), can we expect these profs to be "un-balanced" until the balance ?
The Combat Balance will now be at least 1 year late if it goes live in November (we were told the CB would start in November 2003 for 3 months).
PvE in SWG is a joke - some templates can kill ANYTHING in the game.
PvP in SWG is a joke - some templates are extremely overpowered, some are almost useless
GCW is in a terrible state - you can take out 20 Large turrets in 5mins with a small group of people, bases can be destroyed by ONE person, minefields do hardly any damage. PvP is limited mainly to Jedi and Jedi hunters
We have constantly been fed the carrot of the fabled CB since October-ish last year, and it is constantly pulled back. Many players have only been carryinbg on with SWG because the CB has been promised "soon", to breathe life back into what is becoming an increasingly dull game.
Without the CB, a large percentage of players won't take the risk of purchasing JTL, because so many promises about the CB and the GCW revamp have been broken over and over again.
We were told that the development of JTL would NOT affect the scheduled updates, as the teams were seperate, again this was another lie - as you just admitted (I dont blame you, you're just delivering the news).
I have been pretty vocal persuading people to stay in SWG, as the CB was due, and should make things fun again, now, I doubt I'll still be here by JTL launch.
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Chimaera: fg of MOF Master of nothing, Akev - Politician/Master Chef
Now selling food and drinkfrom the Little Chef tent near the Straylight Mall & Shuttleport on Dantooine (-2603 4995)
Custom orders welcome for food food and drink
Thanks for the update TH.
Enough's enough for me. I've waited and wasted enough money waiting for you guys to fix these issues and deliver this mythical combat balance.
I must say you guys keep promising all these things and rarely deliver. Good for your bottom line I suppose, keeping people sticking around. I'm tired of shelling out $$ to a game that is not improving and just get more boring every day.
I know you will say, "Stay around, things will get great eventually." Well in response, I say I've waited long enough and am not going to wait another year paying you money to make promises you are unable to keep. If you can't do it, hire more developers if those you have aren't enough.
Good luck.
When does KOTOR II come out?
...Clearly the community wants us to do a better job at delivering the game service and this reinforced our decision to make sure we have adequate resources on each update to the game.
The team’s goals are to increase the quality of the service... we agree with the community that our design and implementation process should continue to be improved...
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SOE, I don't want to give you a back-handed compliment, and I do think this statement is very well appreciated, mature and professional; but being able to deliver live software updates reliably, well documented and tested for an online service is pretty much a level 1 requirement. You guys have done a tremendous job this past year, but fundamentally with 100,000+ paying subscribers you never should have had the problems you did. And I don't understand why you have to shift resources to improve core architecture or support services (CM/RM, QA, Ops). You already should have a mature release management and QA process, and a stable library set to customize (for new content). If not, please get it together. It's a great game, but these problems undermine your ability to deliver.
Customers feel a really big difference I think between loving SWG and coping with SOE. We don't like your corporate culture, but love this product.
Also, I thought you used contractors from WingCommander and others for JTL. It's been stated publicly that it was a "separate" team working uniquely on JTL that would not interfere with other initiatives. What happened?
Thanks again for the announcement. Clarity is always appreciated.
_______________________________________________
S O L N, "There's no mystical energy field that controls my destiny."
Explorer/Confronter
Seeing as Jedi and CH got "balanced" (CH's MONTHS ago), can we expect these profs to be "un-balanced" until the balance ?
The Combat Balance will now be at least 1 year late if it goes live in November (we were told the CB would start in November 2003 for 3 months).
PvE in SWG is a joke - some templates can kill ANYTHING in the game.
PvP in SWG is a joke - some templates are extremely overpowered, some are almost useless
GCW is in a terrible state - you can take out 20 Large turrets in 5mins with a small group of people, bases can be destroyed by ONE person, minefields do hardly any damage. PvP is limited mainly to Jedi and Jedi hunters
We have constantly been fed the carrot of the fabled CB since October-ish last year, and it is constantly pulled back. Many players have only been carryinbg on with SWG because the CB has been promised "soon", to breathe life back into what is becoming an increasingly dull game.
Without the CB, a large percentage of players won't take the risk of purchasing JTL, because so many promises about the CB and the GCW revamp have been broken over and over again.
We were told that the development of JTL would NOT affect the scheduled updates, as the teams were seperate, again this was another lie - as you just admitted (I dont blame you, you're just delivering the news).
I have been pretty vocal persuading people to stay in SWG, as the CB was due, and should make things fun again, now, I doubt I'll still be here by JTL launch.
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Chimaera: fg of MOF Master of nothing, Akev - Politician/Master Chef
Now selling food and drinkfrom the Little Chef tent near the Straylight Mall & Shuttleport on Dantooine (-2603 4995)
Custom orders welcome for food food and drink
Thanks for the update TH.
Enough's enough for me. I've waited and wasted enough money waiting for you guys to fix these issues and deliver this mythical combat balance.
I must say you guys keep promising all these things and rarely deliver. Good for your bottom line I suppose, keeping people sticking around. I'm tired of shelling out $$ to a game that is not improving and just get more boring every day.
I know you will say, "Stay around, things will get great eventually." Well in response, I say I've waited long enough and am not going to wait another year paying you money to make promises you are unable to keep. If you can't do it, hire more developers if those you have aren't enough.
Good luck.
When does KOTOR II come out?
. Jedi are rare in this time period (between A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back). Becoming a Jedi and surviving as a Jedi is very very very very difficult (and rewarding) in Star Wars Galaxies: An Empire Divided.
Kevin "Q-3PO" O'Hara
- August 27th 2003
http://www.dddesign.com/temp/jedicave.jpg
bring back the lightsaber tef
IpigPiachoep
Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:44 am
#2
If I wanted to read this junk I would have went to the GCW forum. 1 star 
Corrupt3d
Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:52 pm
#4
careful, the door is kinda screwy right now, you have to jiggle the handle a bit to open it, and make sure you shut it all the way on the way out. the A/C's on.
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