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Athoc

Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:49 pm

Sorry if this has been talked about before, I tried using the search function but couldn't find crap. In the BH forums I've heard people saying having the first box in the counterinsurgency line is just as effective as getting the entire line, including master. Is this true? Any help would be much appreciated.

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AriasImmortal

Wed Feb 18, 2004 11:54 pm

#2

Not true, obviously... heh.

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Pandaboy

Thu Feb 19, 2004 3:17 am

#3

I have the third box in Counterinsurgency and I have never noticed myself counterattacking so I´m kind of wondering this as well.

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ZSM

Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:11 am

#4

Counterattack, as I understand it... and I very well may be wrong... works thusly. When you counterattack, your next attack will not miss... or so someone explained it to me.. or I heard in a rumor.. or... ok, I'm just rambling.

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Quandry

Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:18 am

#5

the way i understand it is its broke and only works like a dodge...but could be wrong as its prety hard to test.

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Kevko_Casanova

Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:43 am

#6

counterattack doesn't make u shoot back, but works fine as a 'dodge'

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travenwatts

Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:54 am

#7

As far as I can tell it works. In PvP i constantly counterattack. I don't pay much attention to PvE battles.

Here is how i understand it to work. Enlighten me if I am wrong.

Lets say someone or something is attacking you. Your first line of defense is if they actually hit you or not (ranged, melee defense mods). In the combat spam it will say "so-and-so misses you". Counterattack, dodge, and block all take effect after a successful hit by an enemy. You will notice that it says "so-and-so hits you, but you counterattack!"

I assume the question here is if you are actually counterattacking. From my experience it seems that whatever damage the enemy hits me for, the counterattack keeps that from hitting me. So let's say i got hit for 200 points of damamge, but i counterattacked. That would mean that even though they had a successful hit, the counterattack kept that 200 from actually affecting me. So, i guess that means it works just like a dodge.

Block works a little differently. Where if you block, only some of the damage goes through to actually hurt you. Liek the block absorbs some of the damage, but not all of it.

ZSM said something that i hadn't realized before. The way he explained it would be most logical because if you counterattack soemthing you expect to be successful on a hit immediately after they hit you. Meaning that you will never 'miss' the target after a successful counterattack. That doesn't mean the opponent cannot dodge, block, or counterattack you back because those occur after a successful hit.

I need to pay closer attention to the combat spam right after i counterattack and see if i ever miss, andalso somehow see how much dmg gets through to me after a successful counterattack. If anyone has done any testing with this, let me know.

Eshamtheunholy

Thu Feb 19, 2004 12:25 pm

#8

I have 165 counterattack from master carbineer and Swordsman defense.

With center of being on I counter or am missed by bullets or attacks 95% of the time unless its against someone with great accuracy like a master rifleman or master TK, in which case I still counter 75%

There is no "Counterattack" it is simply a dodge that is renamed.

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sandblighter

Thu Feb 19, 2004 2:28 pm

#9

Hey folks,

I read the post yesterday about counterattack being followed by an uninterruptable/can't missattack. I happened to fight some tortons later that night and, though they were counterattacking pretty often, their next attack did not seem to hit more often than a normal attack.

Just thought I'd share that. I didn't take the time to test this with my own characters counterattack btw.

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AriasImmortal

Thu Feb 19, 2004 2:51 pm

#10

The only point at which you be counterattacking to any large degree is at master carbineer.

a counterattack *supposedly* makes a normal attack right afterwards unblockable (not sure about specials). not sure if it works tho, as i'm usually spamming specials and i do not believe it applies to them.

Given the rate at which I counterattack (i have +200 to counterattack mods) i could test this out tonight if need be.

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Athoc

Thu Feb 19, 2004 7:41 pm

#11

Thanks for all your help guys, I appreciate your comments.

Athoc Crestingstar

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Quandry

Thu Feb 19, 2004 8:29 pm

#12

realy this should be in the skill discryption.../sigh

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Skinktor

Fri Feb 20, 2004 5:36 am

#13

This skill does not work properly, which is irritating.

It is supposed to:

1: keep you from being hit
2: give you a FREE UN-BLOCKABLE attack against your enemy

This means that not only are you supposed to not take damage, but you are supposed to be dealing damage in return hence the name "counterattack"

THIS is the reason why we get little to no ranged and melee defenses, we are SUPPOSED to get hit and then hopefully counterattack. This theoretically would make us very good, too bad it doesnt work.

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