Carbineer Archive
Thread: Template Choice
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Katana_Blade
Sat Jul 17, 2004 9:03 pm
#1
hey, Sorry to give you one of these...I know you get a lot. I'm just looking for some opinions on which template to use.
#1:
Master Carbines
Master Swordsman(Pikeman?)
66 extra skill points to spend in medic/scout or whatever
#2
Carbines 3/4/0/4
Pikeman 4/4/0/4
BH 0/4/0/0
Please note this is a PvE template. Also, I dont want to take the "leet" cookie cutter or FOTM classes if at all possible. On the other hand, I want to be VIABLE throughout the game and VERSATILE. (This would be my reason to switch Pikes and swords in the first template is because Swords are sooo overpowered right now.) Thank you all very much for your time, and TAFirehawk please have mercy on me.
#1:
Master Carbines
Master Swordsman(Pikeman?)
66 extra skill points to spend in medic/scout or whatever
#2
Carbines 3/4/0/4
Pikeman 4/4/0/4
BH 0/4/0/0
Please note this is a PvE template. Also, I dont want to take the "leet" cookie cutter or FOTM classes if at all possible. On the other hand, I want to be VIABLE throughout the game and VERSATILE. (This would be my reason to switch Pikes and swords in the first template is because Swords are sooo overpowered right now.) Thank you all very much for your time, and TAFirehawk please have mercy on me.
TAfirehawk
Sat Jul 17, 2004 9:23 pm
#2
There is no reason for me to FLAME you....now if you had ask about some BH/Carbineer flavor, well that is discussed in over 100 posts all over this Forum....THAT would deserve a FLAME 
Honestly the best PvE template thatUSES Carbineer is MCH. I know some of the PvE Melee templates are just as good or better, but that would mean dropping Carbineer most likely. But a Bladesmaster and Master Carbineer would be a solid choice too......if you never wanted to use a Carbine...
So if you want that Blast damage type and self-tanking capabilities that is fine and a good friend of mine is TKM/Bladesmaster and has farmed over 50 Crystals already....and he is a casual player. (Also note here he can kill most any NS where I can kill very few because of damage types) But don't be fooled into thinking you will use Carbineer much in this template, hence my suggestion of CH.
You 2nd suggest just looks weird....not much comment on that but how in the world did you come up with THAT?
Katana_Blade
Sat Jul 17, 2004 9:46 pm
#3
lol I love coming up with werid builds, but here was my thought process. I wanted to try to see if I could get BH carbs with swordsman. I found I would have to drop two trees and one skill box between carbs and swordsman. I decided on the counterinsurgency line becuase I've heard counter attack is broken and I didnt really like the skills in there either.
As far as my pikeman choice, when I was looking at swordsman trying to decide which tree to drop, I couldnt choose one. I liked either the moves or the + skills in every tree. Instead of giving up a useful attack or speed or accuracy I looked at pikeman and found that I could give up the defenses tree (granted I will miss the center of being bonus and melee mitigation) but I hate the sweep attacks. Finally I dropped master carbine assault tactics cause I figure I already have a stun attack if I really needed it and I would get plenty of speed from BH carbines.
As far as my pikeman choice, when I was looking at swordsman trying to decide which tree to drop, I couldnt choose one. I liked either the moves or the + skills in every tree. Instead of giving up a useful attack or speed or accuracy I looked at pikeman and found that I could give up the defenses tree (granted I will miss the center of being bonus and melee mitigation) but I hate the sweep attacks. Finally I dropped master carbine assault tactics cause I figure I already have a stun attack if I really needed it and I would get plenty of speed from BH carbines.
TAfirehawk
Sat Jul 17, 2004 9:51 pm
#4
Well I still contend that there is something UBER about pulling 3 pets with Light Armor, 57% Kin Resist, 9.5k Health and 5.5k Action......oh and my third toon is a Master Doc to buff me AND the pets....I can go a whole buff session and never use a Pet Stim on ER missions 
Oh with my toons and pets I can pull Level 85 ER missions by myself, WOOT.
Bad news is I dropped MCH to pickup some holo-profs, now re-grinding CH, but getting 1360 CH XP per ER
Doq_Utek
Sat Jul 17, 2004 9:57 pm
#5
Heh, I remeber being a CH/Carbineer. That was probably the most fun I've had in the game PVE wise. On your second template I'd sugest you go Carbs 0434 instead. Invest in a few speed SEA's if you need to but don't underestimate the value of the burstshot series, especially in PVE. The scattershots are generally better in PVP. Good luck either way
Katana_Blade
Sat Jul 17, 2004 10:05 pm
#6
ok Doq, thanks for your suggestion, but is burst shot better than something like crippling shot? what advantages does it have?
Doq_Utek
Sat Jul 17, 2004 10:13 pm
#7
You should look at the wepons specials info sticky but basicly burstshot2 has a 6x damage mod in a 30 degree cone and cripplingshot is a 7.5x mod on a single target. I'm not sure of the reloadtimes off the top of my head 'cause I cap them both but both but the former is defianatley quicker.
Katana_Blade
Sat Jul 17, 2004 10:18 pm
#8
ok Doq thanks much! That looks like it might be a better idea. Anyone with more advice feel free to help out. Thanks!
JediMaster754
Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:45 pm
#9
Hi. I'm gona do one of the following templates, but i cant decide which. Please post pros/cons of each template.
Template one(I'll go light side with this one)
biwan:
biwan:Master Lightsaber
Master Enhancer
4004 Healer
or
Template two(ill go darkside with this one)
Master Lightsaber
Master Powers
4004 Healer
Laous
Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:47 pm
#10
the first one is usable.. M powers isn't all too great in PvP but fun none the less.
Vcardossk
Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:49 pm
#11
Laous wrote:
the first one is usable.. M powers isn't all too great in PvP but fun none the less.
U kiddin, area intim pwns!
Laous
Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:56 pm
#12
Vcardossk wrote:
Laous wrote:
the first one is usable.. M powers isn't all too great in PvP but fun none the less.
U kiddin, area intim pwns!
Also heavy on force cost, no way to regen force quickly, no protection other than intimidate, lots of useless skills(mindblast and such), no force run.
You would be better off getting brawler for the intimidate and save yourself the countless hours of grinding for the xx4x line of powers.. or making a wookiee jedi. You also can then use the skillpoints you saved on something more useful.. like force Armor and force Run.
JediMaster754
Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:47 pm
#13
Thanks for replys. While MLS MP 4004 healer would be fun, its probally not the most powerfull choice. Therefore, I think im gona go Master Enhancer Master Lightsaber 4004 Healer. I was also wondering, however, if instead of Master Enhancer i go 4404 Enhancer and go novice brawler? Would the lack of Master Enhancer make novice brawler not worth it? Also would it hurt my FRS bonuses by going dark jedi knight?
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