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Thread: Carbineer, a rare breed!?

Kagerin
Mon Sep 06, 2004 2:48 pm
#1

As I was walking around Theed, I noticed something, NO master carbineers. There are none. Everyone wants to be uber by going TKM or Rifleman. I don't see why everyone wants to play to be uber like the other person and not play the game for fun. It seems more and more people are trying to be the class that owns the other class just so they can go running around saying they are 'pwnzor' or whatever the losers say.

I can't wait for the combat revamp so I can kill all the stupid TKMs and Rifleman that want to be cheap and use no strategy. Rifleman just go out and get a Jawa Rifle and spam head shot. Now everyone is on the Jedi binge, another cheap way to sit there and think you are better then another player even though they make that class 4 times better. If Nova is right about the combat revamp really making thinks a level playing ground, then we have to be the ranged state hitters. I just don't see why we don't have a KD on Carbineer. I don't want to be a bounty hunter just to get a KD. I want to be a combat medic/carbineer. Don't want to give that up

And no, I didn't pick Combat medic to be one of those uber classes. I picked it mainly if SWG ever got a high end game, I would be greatly needed. Until that happens though, I just have the ability to throw poisons in Anchorhead Tavern late at night and watche everyone run around like crazy.
SandStormRaider
Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:03 pm
#2

Well one reason for the low concentration of carbineers is because Rifleman and TKM are a lot easier to use. Not many peoplewant to be an underdog profession right....??


And isnt ChargeShot a KD carbineer special?
Kagerin
Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:22 pm
#3

I never use charge shot. Don't even know if I should. Not really keen on the specials. I mainly use crippling shot. For PvP it all depends. Some people don't wear legs and just wear helms and chest plates. Then I use Leg Shot 3.
ZeloOwer
Mon Sep 06, 2004 4:34 pm
#4

If you want my opinion...after the combat revamp....you'll see more of a resurgance back to your health/action-hitters. If all three HAM pools are relatively equal (same amount of HP) and the DEV's somehow figure out how to make the mind pool healable or make healing the H-A- pools harder to heal....i don't know...maybe then....
jmonty
Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:42 pm
#5

i've noticed this also. so, i figure this works for the carbineer prof. ifhardly anyone is a master carbineer, hardly anyone will know how to effectively deal with one, right? having been a master swordsman/doctor for a while, i now plan on master swords/brawler/carbineer. i hope to learn the carbineer profession well enough to bring more respect to the'Master' title.




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Kryxal
Mon Sep 06, 2004 9:27 pm
#6






Kagerin wrote:

I never use charge shot. Don't even know if I should. Not really keen on the specials. I mainly use crippling shot. For PvP it all depends. Some people don't wear legs and just wear helms and chest plates. Then I use Leg Shot 3.






I wouldn't forget about action shot, it has a posture down element to it. It's no KD, but if they're dizzied and you get a posture down, they're taking a risk getting up to close the range...



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Kagerin
Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:37 pm
#7

Well I do action shot with people without legs when they are attacking me. When they are attacking one of the more effective classes, or so they think, they don't really pay too much attention to me when I'm doing 2k damage to their legs. They can't heal 4k of damage done within seconds from each hit. Most people that don't use legs are pretty confident I guess in their healing abilities. I guess they think just the body and head need to be covered. Go figure. If they do have comp legs on though, I'm pretty much useless unless I can get a dizzy to stick and then hit with a posture change or KD... KDs are a rarity. I usually just go for the posture change when they are dizzy. Killing someone though is near impossible when they have comp on. Just my opinion.

I think it would be good for the devs to make us a crowd control class or a damage class. I see our weapons have better damage then most rifles and pistols. Just the resists kill us. I don't know too many rifles so my statement could be wrong. Being crowd control would be the best thing I can invision. I would love to be the target for everyone. I just feel like a step child out there fighting. No one really bothers with me. The only way I get attention is if I pull out my combat medic skills. Most the fights though I don't feel like wasting a poison on a pointless fight in Theed. No reason to pull out really good poison for 2 or 3 guys.
Masterfish
Tue Sep 07, 2004 2:42 am
#8

Yes, we are a rare breed. Yesterday I couldn't find a Carbineer teachin me Advanced Carbine Counterinsurgency Tactics

And many Players Cities don't even havea Carbineer Trainer.

Combat Revamp! SAVE US!!!!!



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On Chimaera: JANTO KORMAKIS ---> Human Commando / Rifleman / Squad Leader


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Nimyk
Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:13 pm
#9

I'm currently a BH/Pistoleer/Carbineer. I have mastered Pistols and Carbines and need Invest 4 to master BH. I mainly did the carbineer just because i was soo close and could. And had planned to drop it and go back to Master Pistoleer/Master Bounty Hunter.


That all being said, I think you guys are really underestimating Carbineer sometimes. I think it mainly depends on how you look at the proffession. Carbineer to me is a really good ranged support class. They have some REALLY nice area attacks. Full Auto Area 2 rocks in pvp because you land all of the states on a LOT of people at once, same with Action Shot 1/2. The bleed's pretty worthless since everyone else will be attacking H/M, BUT the area Posture change down can really have an impact. As a BH/Carbineer, Even mano y mano wasn't bad. Had a situation where a TKM and Rifleman were harrassing a base near a large body of water, then would swim out and wait for healing and tef to drop (out of attack range). When I caught them doing this, used FullAuto Area2, Dizzied etc etc. Then Fire KD on the TKM and a quick Underhand to the Rifleman. IN retrospect, i suppose Charge Shot would have been better as it's an area attack... The outcome was though, 2 floating dead peeps. I use a Laser Carbine mainly, even though it's Energy which sucks against Comp/PSGS, it does have Medium Armor Piercing. And i've seen them over 500 max dmg. At master, you can fire shots fast and very accurate. I'm pretty sure a BH/Carbineer is the MOST accurate proffession in the game right now. (i think it barely beats TKM).


Carbineers can be incredible, just gotta learn what the specials are all about, figure out a good specials combo to make the KD"s stick. ( I find that they seem to stick more if they are preceeded by some heavy hitting shots) If you're not doing group, the BH specials help a lot too.


just some thoughts, btw, earlier today i got OWNED as a BH 3444/M Pistoleer Carbineer 0300 against a Master Carbineer/BH with Pistoleer for def.


thats carbs main flaw.. lack of defenses.
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