Carbineer Archive
Thread: Spankin New template for pvp
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Ateus_Silverbane
Wed Sep 01, 2004 9:40 pm
#1
carbineer 0000
master TKA
master fencer
just kidding here guys
the real template:
bh 0440
master carbineer
pistoleer 0344
what do you think?
a lot of great pistol abilities, use of the geo pistol, use of all carbine specials and bh carbine specials.
+45 melee defense total, +65 against kd, among other great defenses
Figure i can get em bleeding with the pistol then firekd with the carbine and confusionshot to keep em down, then go for eyeshot or crippleshot to finish them. Any thoughts?
This carbine was inspired when i was gankded today by a cowardly overt who thrashed me in the back while i was at a themepark talking to an npc.
master TKA
master fencer
just kidding here guys
the real template:
bh 0440
master carbineer
pistoleer 0344
what do you think?
a lot of great pistol abilities, use of the geo pistol, use of all carbine specials and bh carbine specials.
+45 melee defense total, +65 against kd, among other great defenses
Figure i can get em bleeding with the pistol then firekd with the carbine and confusionshot to keep em down, then go for eyeshot or crippleshot to finish them. Any thoughts?
This carbine was inspired when i was gankded today by a cowardly overt who thrashed me in the back while i was at a themepark talking to an npc.
Vectar
Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:25 pm
#2
i think this template is better:
bh 0400
master carbineer
0043 pistoleer
0204 rifleman
the defences are much better, screw using a pistol, carbines all the way 
19thTitan
Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:01 pm
#3
I don't know if I would grab any more pistol than you really need. I happen to think my template suits me good.
Basically its the same thing exept only 0043 in pistoleer. It gives me a bit of defence still, and puts me over 95 in pistol speed - which I believe can shoot a 4.0 with any special at one second. The thing I grabed whichI think is of more use than that extra pistol is novice brawler. Warcry and intimdate, also if you do that make sure you grab some bio form-fitting undershirt with + intimdate and warcry.
My template is in the sig.
Niror
Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:03 pm
#4
19thTitan wrote:
I don't know if I would grab any more pistol than you really need. I happen to think my template suits me good.
Basically its the same thing exept only 0043 in pistoleer. It gives me a bit of defence still, and puts me over 95 in pistol speed - which I believe can shoot a 4.0 with any special at one second. The thing I grabed whichI think is of more use than that extra pistol is novice brawler. Warcry and intimdate, also if you do that make sure you grab some bio form-fitting undershirt with + intimdate and warcry.
My template is in the sig.
Woops, posted on my crafting account
. This is my combat characters account, lol.
Nadiel26
Thu Sep 02, 2004 2:25 am
#5
i like mine
master carbineer
BH carbines 4
3044 SL
solo i killed 2 rebels and made the 3rd(a rifleman/CM) run for his life 
muon saved my ass though
muon saved my ass though
Hunterone110
Thu Sep 02, 2004 3:51 am
#6
and heres my best of the best template 
:
:master carbineer
bh 0400
pistol 0044
novice brawler (initmitate works ya)
combined with 2,8k buffs, poison and desease resist buffs, mind buffs, 2x430 brandy, 44% synth, 95 def vskd, sometimes defvs fire foodand in emergency situationsvercupti 1010 to ham, muon gold and zabraks equilirium, the usual (psg, helmet, foot, chest and gloves) armor, an 200-442 dxr6 youre workin your way through def stackers.
before i tryed
master carbineer
bh 3440
pistol 0044
but lets face it without an 600 max dmg geo and last ditch pistols are worthless imho.
TAfirehawk
Thu Sep 02, 2004 6:10 am
#7
I still haven't seen anything better if you are just using a Carbine.....
Master Carbineer
4440 Fencer
0044 Pistoleer
Novice Medic
1000 Scout
4440 Fencer
0044 Pistoleer
Novice Medic
1000 Scout
Anti-Shock +5
Carbine Accuracy +130
Carbine Accuracy While Moving +30
Carbine Aiming +25
Carbine Speed +60
Counterattack +105
Defense Vs. Blind +80
Defense Vs. Dizzy +90
Defense Vs. Intimidate +55
Defense Vs. Knockdown +115
Defense Vs. Posture Change (Down) +70
Defense Vs. Stun +50
Dodge +100
Equilibrium +1
Injury Treatment +5
Injury Treatment Speed +5
Medicine Use +5
Melee Defense +109
Ranged Defense +98
Terrain Negotiation +20
Vitalize +1
Wound Treatment +5
Carbine Accuracy +130
Carbine Accuracy While Moving +30
Carbine Aiming +25
Carbine Speed +60
Counterattack +105
Defense Vs. Blind +80
Defense Vs. Dizzy +90
Defense Vs. Intimidate +55
Defense Vs. Knockdown +115
Defense Vs. Posture Change (Down) +70
Defense Vs. Stun +50
Dodge +100
Equilibrium +1
Injury Treatment +5
Injury Treatment Speed +5
Medicine Use +5
Melee Defense +109
Ranged Defense +98
Terrain Negotiation +20
Vitalize +1
Wound Treatment +5
Well actually the Carbineer/Fencer/Pistoleer/TKA combo is a bit better on the Defense side but you give up Scout and Medic....which I am really torn on.....
Oh and this requires very specialized weapons and SEA's to reach the damage potential needed in PvP....although even with that I can't do enough damage against 80% Comp....
c00kie
Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:32 am
#8
Master Cabineer
BH 0/4/4/0
Pistoleer 0/0/4/3
Novice medic
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Offense
Carbine Accuracy +190
Carbine Accuracy While Moving +30
Carbine Aiming +25
Carbine Speed +115
Carbine Accuracy While Moving +30
Carbine Aiming +25
Carbine Speed +115
Melee Defense +32
Pistol Accuracy +115
Pistol Accuracy While Standing +15
Pistol Speed +103
Pistol Accuracy +115
Pistol Accuracy While Standing +15
Pistol Speed +103
Counterattack +105
Defense vs Blind +40
Defense vs Dizzy +40
Defense vs Intimidate +25
Defense vs Knockdown +65
Defense vs Posture Change +20
Defense vs Stun +40
Ranged Defense +42
Ranged Mitigation +5
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Defense vs Dizzy +40
Defense vs Intimidate +25
Defense vs Knockdown +65
Defense vs Posture Change +20
Defense vs Stun +40
Ranged Defense +42
Ranged Mitigation +5
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JanuHull
Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:44 am
#9
Ateus_Silverbane wrote:
carbineer 0000
master TKA
master fencer
just kidding here guys
the real template:
bh 0440
master carbineer
pistoleer 0344
what do you think?
a lot of great pistol abilities, use of the geo pistol, use of all carbine specials and bh carbine specials.
+45 melee defense total, +65 against kd, among other great defenses
Figure i can get em bleeding with the pistol then firekd with the carbine and confusionshot to keep em down, then go for eyeshot or crippleshot to finish them. Any thoughts?
This carbine was inspired when i was gankded today by a cowardly overt who thrashed me in the back while i was at a themepark talking to an npc.
Not bad at all. Though many of us here would be loathed to admit it, the balance of Pistol and Carbineer actually helps you by giving you a more diverse damage type portfolio.
I know it sounds noobish because people think I mean the Geo pistol, but I am also referring to the Striker Pistol, which slips a little Kinetic love into the mix for those anti-ranged Nightsisters on Dathomir.
TAfirehawk
Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:56 am
#10
c00kie wrote:
Master Cabineer
BH 0/4/4/0
Pistoleer 0/0/4/3
Novice medic
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Offense
Carbine Accuracy +190
Carbine Accuracy While Moving +30
Carbine Aiming +25
Carbine Speed +115
Melee Defense +32
Pistol Accuracy +115
Pistol Accuracy While Standing +15
Pistol Speed +103
Counterattack +105
Defense vs Blind +40
Defense vs Dizzy +40
Defense vs Intimidate +25
Defense vs Knockdown +65
Defense vs Posture Change +20
Defense vs Stun +40
Ranged Defense +42
Ranged Mitigation +5
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Do you find those Defenses actually doing anything for you? I remember at that level they help for a few seconds but then you get slammed....
Ateus_Silverbane
Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:24 am
#11
Well the thing is i havent finished the defensive poertion of the template yet so i dont know how effective it is. I do know that +65 against kd is quite effective though.
Ill have to check those rifleman defenses, never looked into that.
Ill have to check those rifleman defenses, never looked into that.
c00kie
Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:35 am
#12
TAfirehawk wrote:
Do you find those Defenses actually doing anything for you? I remember at that level they help for a few seconds but then you get slammed....
Don't know yet, b/c I haven't finished. Just started working towards it today....
I recently dropped the best defense stacking template in the game (if you ask me) Master Fencer/TKM/Pistoleer 1/0/4/0. I was really hard to hit and even then hard to hit for much... Landing a state on my was near impossible... and in weeks of rancor and dragon hunting I was kd'd less times than I could count on my fingers.
I think these defenses will be good enough though, b/c the damage output is so much higher with this template...
As for the striker comment on pistols... The striker sucks, hands down... If you wanna killa nightsister find another way
TAfirehawk
Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:13 am
#13
Well quite honestly I could KD and fill the States on that defensive template in seconds.....PvE doesn't really count....PvP is where you find how good your defenses really are....
I like these templates, but don't think you can stand on the template alone.....you must have uber armor to survive, which is quite common these days.
And if you don't have a lot of SEA's then BH is almost a requirement....this means you can't get 4440 Fencer, which is key to defense stacking 
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