Carbineer Archive
Thread: I thought you guys might enjoy what happened to me the other night
Hey everyone. I don't post very often, but I thought I might humor you with what happened to me the other night.
Last night I was hunting for holos when I got jumped by some members of the opposite faction. Before I go on I should probably mention that I am always buffed, on average all my stats (except mind) are 2.5k and up. I drink angerian fishak before a fight to boost my mind by about 550 for 12 mins, and if I need it I will also eat some Glazed Glucose (+350 mind, +350 focus for 6 mins or so). Also I have a variety of spices that I take depending on what I need (booster, muon or neutron).
Anyway, so here I am running missions hoping for a holocron when I get jumped by 3 enemies. I use an Angerian Fishak, and two glazed glucose foods. I also throw on my encumbrance sliced composite (has resistances between 67-80% since it used krayt scales) and tell my GSP to attack. As usual my GSP was no where to be found since he was caught on a boundary line or a blade of grass. The battle didn't last too long, and one of the attackers was extremely weak (no armor =D). I managed to kill them all but i noticed my action was pretty low. This was strange since they didn't hit me all that much, and my armor helped a lot. I didn't think much of it at the time, but whatever.
Later on the same 3 people come back, this time with a few friends and attack me again. I went threw the whole food/drink/spice routine, but of course I still lost. This time I went though the combat logs and thought you guys would LOVE this:
XXX hits you for 353 Damage, your armor prevented 294 damage
XXX hits you for 221 Damage, your armor prevented 188 damage
XXX hits you for 498 Damage, your armor prevented 416 damage
XXX hits you for 353 Damage, your armor prevented 273 damage
XXX hits you for 397 Damage, your armor prevented 307 damage
XXX hits you for 929 Damage, your armor prevented 774 damage
That's it (died from the action pool of course). If you add up the damage they did to me it's only 499. My base HAM is higher then that. Now I am not exactly sure what my HAM was because I didn't take a screenshot, but like I said, they are all 2.5k or more. It's pretty funny that I did 4x more damage to myself then the enemy did to me =P
Official Carbineer Motto: "I bet I can kill me before you can kill me"
Syrah
Um I am not sure what went wrong with for you but something did. My carbines are built for damage I dont care about HAM. I figure if I hit them less I wont need to worry about HAM cost so much. When I am docbuffed and spamming things I get a blue number in the range of 5 - 20 floating above my head depending on if I ate my food as well to cut donw my mind costs. I take no damage from my carbine skills. So if you were fully buffed like you say the only thing I can see is that you missed your quickness buff float away. I know it always seems to go first for me that may be cause I dont care when my stanimia or con buff goes. Or if you were really lucky you found a new bugg. Good luck and all but when full doc buffed you only worry should be mind costs.
Lageas
heh its funny how people think we are exagerrating with the 'carbineers motto.' when we talk about our own ham costs doing more damage to ourself than beingshot, people just kinda laugh like its old but good joke. unfortuneatly its the truth: all you have to do is look at your ham bar when you fire off a crippling shot in pvp. its sick and SOE is negligent as hell for implementing such ridiculous ham costs on the carbineer then compounding them by boosting pvp ham costs from 0% -75% and back down to 25% or whatever the hell it is atm.
knee jerk reactions to problems that dont exist (ie pvp fights 'being too fast' and raising ham costs and lowering damage to discourage specials and make people plink away at each other longer), complete disregard for problems that DO exist (carbine ham costs, specials that dont work, broken professions etc etc) dont inspire a great deal of confidence in me that the carbineers orcarbine weapons will be adjusted, fixed, changed to our benefit or even addressed anytime soon.
I don't know...
I was a long time carbineer (check all my posts here). Now I am using pistols. As far as I can tell I have the exact same problems. My shots use less HAM, but they do less damage. In the end, when the mob is dead, I have the same action left as when I was using carbines (this is killing stuff I have killed 1000s of so I know them well).
The only advantage I can see to pistols over carbines is health bleeds (face it, action bleeds are not the most useful) and the fact that combined with armor, nothing seems to kill me in PvE. The combined effect of the melee damage penalty being only 1.1 or 1.2 for pistols (its 2.0 for carbines) and the increased pistol defense, I literally find myself able to tank things that would have dropped me in a few hits before.
The grass is definately not all that greener in this side...in many ways I am regreting my move to pistols.