Carbineer Archive
Thread: The Devs alegances are revealed
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Kaelle_DB
Sun Jun 13, 2004 10:22 am
#1
So scattershot logging improperly has been an issue for how long? Yeah about 11 fricking months.
2 days ago they allowed anyone to make a character as a MBH on testcenter 2. Well it turns out that all of the scatterhits negate the jedi defenses. Today they fixed it so that scattershot logs properly and doesn't negate the defenses.
The jedi whine about it and it is fixed 2 fricking days later.
I'm sick of all this jedi BS, they pay complete attention to whatever the precious jedi say and it gets fixed ASAP. When we have an issue it's like we are shouting into outer space. They should tell the jedi that they are a miniscule portion of the player base and that there were 32 professions ahead of them that need fixing. Instead the jedi get the next 2 publishes to themselves and our issues get pushed back to the almighty combat balance.
Thi really pisses me off that it takes 2 days to fix something that affects jedi, but if it hadn't have affected them it would have gone on for 3-4 more months, not to mention the 11 months that it has already been ignored.
/end rant
TAfirehawk
Sun Jun 13, 2004 11:29 am
#3
The Devs go where the money is, and that is all about Jedi. The player base of Jedi will soon exceed every other profession except Novice Medic 
Without bringing about a bigger role of The Force before the Combat Balance this game might not make it to JTL.
Yes this really pisses me off too, but its all about money and good press.
Kaelle_DB
Sun Jun 13, 2004 11:39 am
#4
Well at least scattershot logs now on test center. 
I sometimes wonder what it is that the devs do. Ifthis could be fixed in a flashonce they thought it was an issue, why wasn't this done months ago, like during beta. 
TAfirehawk
Sun Jun 13, 2004 11:58 am
#5
In general I often defend the Devs, but at the same time they are mostlyclueless and don't know their arse from a hole in the ground. AND the BIGGEST complaint is they don't seem to learn from their previous mistakes.....
I don't expect them to be perfect, but learning from one's mistakes is not too much to ask.....IMO 
sweatyclimber
Sun Jun 13, 2004 1:28 pm
#6
Kaelle_DB wrote:
/emote points his carbine at himself hitting the jedi with his ham costs.
jedi: /bug omg the uber carbineers are killing us with their ham costs
Devs:wow we never knew carbineers had high ham costs... /hotfix
exactly as an entertainer i've given up however since they will never ever do anything to fix anythingbut jedi
JorahRamsai
Sun Jun 13, 2004 4:32 pm
#7
Entire jedi population, a whole 50 people per galaxy.
InfluenzaSWTA wrote:
La di da.
Maybe you aren't aware of this, but Publish 9 is all about Jedi. How can you get mad that they're fixing bugs that would otherwise DECIMATE the entire Jedi population? This is a great sign that the Devs are paying attention to the big issues and fixing them while they're still on Test.
Warmaker01
Sun Jun 13, 2004 6:41 pm
#8
I'll post a somewhat related reply in the hostile GCW Forum:
Jedi Revamp (small population of players) > Combat Rebalance (practically everyone) > GCW Revamp (The point of the game, right?)
They devote an entire publish to one profession, one that was supposed to be rare. Okay, whatever. But they put it ahead, and pushed back the Combat Rebalance, which supposedly will address the issues that plague anything Combat related. That means a whole lot more than the "hokey little religion." What bothers me is that they fix the Jedi despite the current borked combat system. Would it not have made common sense to fix the combat system first, which is the very foundation of so many things? The combat system affects everyone, the CDEF wielding noob, the elite professions, and even the Weaponsmiths & Armorers to an extent. This of course, naturally ties very, very heavily on the Galactic Civil War. If Jedi needed fixing, it should have been after the CR, so they would be appropriately balancedagainst fixed professions and a fixed combat system.
The extent of attention the Jedi receive as well as the AFU precedence of publishes is so amazing, it boggles the mind. As others have said before, the Combat Rebalance better fix everything. I have seen all the lazy replies of "wait until the Combat Rebalance" digging through all the numerous posts on the forums from people looking for answers. That answer has been floating around for a long time. With all the hopes resting on the CR, when the curtains are pulled and the stagelights come on, the Rebalance better be everything it's hyped up to be, all supposedly wrapped up in one neat little publish. I'm anxiously waiting for that to happen.
Then there's the GCW Revamp.
Kaelle_DB
Mon Jun 14, 2004 12:01 am
#9
Even if it is testcenter. The jedi complain about something and it is hotfixed ON A SUNDAY!!!!
We can't even get a fix in a publish, and if we ask for something they give us the standard combat rebalance response that they have been hawking since January.
I've been a carbineer since launch, taking several long breaks from playing a few times. Each time I come back I am amazed at how barely anything has been done. Our top 5 issues are practically the same as they were at lauch. I can count on one hand the issues that they have fixed for us since launch (and I wouldn't even have to use all 5 fingers).
Message Edited by Kaelle_DB on 06-13-2004 12:06 PM
InfluenzaSWTA
Mon Jun 14, 2004 12:13 am
#11
La di da.
ScatterShot not showing up in your combat log correctly is a minor problem. Extremely minor. Other scatter hits completely ignoring Toughness defenses? That's a major problem, and it needed to be fixed quickly once the Devs became aware of it. And how'd they become aware of it? Because of the Fencers killing Jedi, whose only defenses are Toughness mods.
Maybe you aren't aware of this, but Publish 9 is all about Jedi. How can you get mad that they're fixing bugs that would otherwise DECIMATE the entire Jedi population? This is a great sign that the Devs are paying attention to the big issues and fixing them while they're still on Test.
And you're right, if the scatter hits didn't go through toughness, then we wouldn't have had our logs fixed for a few more months. But why is that something to get all pissy about? If I were a programmer on the dev team, fixing that bug would be at the absolute bottom of my priority queue. Two or three moves in the game not reporting their damage properly is not a game-breaking bug.
XxEvilFirexX
Mon Jun 14, 2004 12:24 am
#12
how about the thousands of people who have sent in tickets about the dismounting bug that has been in the game since mounts were added. I really wonder why they can't fix that with a hotfix, instead they say its not worth fixing. Yet the jedi get everything they want fixed
Kaelle_DB
Mon Jun 14, 2004 12:26 am
#13
It wasn't just the "other scatter hits" that were ignoring toughness, and defensive mods,scattershot was doing it too. All we wanted was the combat log to be fixed, which was the source of that problem. Yes the next two publishes are about the jedi blah, blah, blah this issue was reported in beta. If it could be hotfixed on a sunday when it became a problem to the jedi, it could have been added to a publish long ago.
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