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Thread: i think that there should be a carbine that has heavy AP

adamsmasher001
Sat Oct 04, 2003 2:16 am
#1



hkyplyr31 wrote:
after all, the carbine is the pvp wepen... even if it is only the factioned rebal laser carbine (this would be a great counter to At-St's).




While it would be nice... I think Heavy AP should remain the domain of the Rifle and the Heavy Weapon...

/shrug
hkyplyr31
Sat Oct 04, 2003 2:42 am
#2

but it would make sence if it was a factioned carbine. atst=heavy armor... reb carbineer's=heavy ap. they would be going down like mad.








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SwissArmyWolf
Sat Oct 04, 2003 3:26 am
#3

While i'm tempted to say i would like an ap3 weapon, an ap3 carbine is in my opinion rediculous. arbines are anti-troop weapons, not anti tanks weapons. If carbines got an ap3 weapon the very next thing you'll see is pistoleers asking for an ap2, or even gasp! an ap3 weapon. Commandos wil ask to have all their weapons upgraded to ap3 because they're "heavy weapons". They'll even push for ap4 for alot of weapons.


I say ap 2 is good enough for me, there is almost always vernerabilities. If this post was because you got owned by an at-st and you want revenge, then you shouldn't be carbineer. Go be a commando and tef the thing to death....

Xmak
Sat Oct 04, 2003 4:11 am
#4

AP2 is more than enough for carbines.
The only thing that beefs me is that our AP2 weapon has such a low minimum damage.
I wouldn't mind having a decent AP1 carbine inline with the snubby or ee3, but I don't see that happening.




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seaware
Sat Oct 04, 2003 10:56 am
#5

I'd be happy if the Elite (or E11) had the speed and damage of a DH17 Short or EE3, while keeping it's ap1.


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HARP00N
Sat Oct 04, 2003 11:46 am
#6

its fine guys, riflemen have the high AP. Thats all they have.

hkyplyr31
Sat Oct 04, 2003 12:13 pm
#7

after all, the carbine is the pvp wepen... even if it is only the factioned rebal laser carbine (this would be a great counter to At-St's).








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MegaMako
Sat Oct 04, 2003 2:52 pm
#8

Carbine's should stay where they are. The carbine is anti-infantry and we should leave the heavy stuff to commandos. Our weapons need major work on their stats and preformance but we just dont need AP3.
Kinsei
Sat Oct 04, 2003 3:16 pm
#9

A second AP2 gun would be neat though.



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Iri
Sat Oct 04, 2003 7:21 pm
#10

The elite carbine should be made AP2 and get a damage increase.


Then it wouldn't suck.




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hkyplyr31
Sun Oct 05, 2003 8:08 am
#11

hehe, i get owned my atst's all the time... but that is not why i am posting this. i just think that the elite or the dxr6 carbine should be better than the laser carbine,shouldent that bethe reason why some people get novice carbineer?


and on the same note... shouldent an atst (an anit tank wepon) not be abel to hit someoen that is within 5m of it? an atst is somewhat like a tank, but withought the close fire weopns. if i were ot walk over to an unmaned, remote controled M1 tank there would be no way that the thing could hit me. why dont atst have the same disadvantage? i understand that this would give CH'sthe power again, and i dont think that they should have it, so i alos think that is there range gets nerfed there armor should be beefed up vs kanteic res (prob close to 100% heavy).









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Karikaru
Sun Oct 05, 2003 4:59 pm
#12

hmm i dunno, carbines are supposed to be the weapons of the cavalry used primarily for attacking personel and other cavalry, so i think AP2 is sufficient, the only heavy weapons that should get AP3 are rocket launchers. acid rifles, lightning cannons, and flamethrowers are all anti-personel weapons.



ya i agree that the elite carbine should be AP2 though, because its more of an assault rifle, where as the laser is more of a rifle and the DH17 snub is more of a sub-machine gun. so may be the laser should have AP3




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hkyplyr31
Sun Oct 05, 2003 10:39 pm
#13

it would be nice if somethign gets changed, but i dont think we will see it.








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