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Thread: Master Carbineer Speed = Suxxors

DHUScreed
Mon Apr 05, 2004 1:01 am
#1
I made Master carbineer, dropped my BH carbine tree and went up the Squad Leader tree and +65 speed sucks pretty bad. With BH Carbine i had +115 Carbine speed, affectively reaching the 1 second cap on all specials. Now after dropping it I feel like a novice marksman again.


Hopefully in Publish 8 they'll fix this



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Jenky
Mon Apr 05, 2004 1:21 am
#2
How does this need a fix?


Then what would be the point of BH



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pentjaksilat
Mon Apr 05, 2004 3:27 am
#3




Jenky wrote:

How does this need a fix?


Then what would be the point of BH




that's an incredibly warped view...i'm sorry, but saying any elite combat profession should be reliant on dabbling in a skill point consuming hybrid just to get up to the level that many other professions hit w/ ease alone is absurd...


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CairnTrenor
Mon Apr 05, 2004 5:16 am
#4

pentjaksilat wrote:

Jenky wrote:
How does this need a fix?
Then what would be the point of BH

that's an incredibly warped view...i'm sorry, but saying any elite combat profession should be reliant on dabbling in a skill point consuming hybrid just to get up to the level that many other professions hit w/ ease alone is absurd...

~pentjak





Actually I would prefer that it was the other way around. To be really good with a ranged weapon you would have to dabble like carbineers and pistoleers do now, but the fact that riflemen don't have this option and wouldn't need it even if they were able to dabble in something because of their +90 speed at master.

Personally I think that Pistoleers and Carbineers have the "right" speed, maybe abit of tweaking here and there but my suggestion would be reduce rifleman speed and give them a profession to dabble in (ranger perhaps).



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RebalMarineHunter
Mon Apr 05, 2004 5:40 am
#5




DHUScreed wrote:

I made Master carbineer, dropped my BH carbine tree and went up the Squad Leader tree and +65 speed sucks pretty bad. With BH Carbine i had +115 Carbine speed, affectively reaching the 1 second cap on all specials. Now after dropping it I feel like a novice marksman again.


Hopefully in Publish 8 they'll fix this






I'm pretty sure that out of carbines/pistols and rifles that carbines are the only one having troubles making there speed caps while just mastering there own skill. Master rifleman are just +5 off of there cap when using a slow T-21, pistoleers hit there cap real quick, but carbines.... Don't get it.


Rifles and pistols don't need a nerf, but a master carboneer should be able to atleast match the speed of a master rifleman. Carbines suffer from a lack of power as it is compared to rifles (and that makes sense), they should atleast match the speed.





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makhina
Mon Apr 05, 2004 8:07 am
#6

DHUScreed wrote:
I made Master carbineer, dropped my BH carbine tree and went up the Squad Leader tree and +65 speed sucks pretty bad. With BH Carbine i had +115 Carbine speed, affectively reaching the 1 second cap on all specials. Now after dropping it I feel like a novice marksman again.
Hopefully in Publish 8 they'll fix this






master carbine gets +60, not +65. dont know were the other 5 comes from.

which makes the original poster even more right.

my perfectly speed sliced 3.8 speed laser with a 33% speed power up and my not so oober +6 in speed attactchments... i am still not near the speed cap on cripple shot.

the speed equation is broken...and it's jagged end is shoved up carbineer's backside.
DHUScreed
Mon Apr 05, 2004 11:51 am
#7
+65 comes from master marksman



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pentjaksilat
Tue Apr 06, 2004 12:42 am
#8
i believe pistol gets +74 at master...and since they have a slow special like stopping shot, they do need quite a bit in attachments to actually cap.


i sorta agree on the "should be other way around" but then you'd have to get into the idea that not only rifle would have to have somewhere to dabble in, but as would fencer, tka, sword, pike...would just get way messy.


i do hear what you mean oncarbine/pistol speed being 'bout right...honestly, if we had 10 more speed, maybe 15 to get up to pistols (sure their weapons are quicker, but their delays are longer), then we'd be fine...we need nowhere near the +95 riflemen have, or the 100+ tkm/fencers have, i think that under the current speed equation, +75's a good speed for most professions. it sets everyone on an even ground. it promotes speed slices & speed powerups, and rewards those that invest in attachments.


~pentjak



retired: 09/02/'04.
RIP Dunadan
...being perfected in a short time, he fulfilled long years; for his soul was pleasing to the Lord, therefore he took him quickly from the midst of wickedness...
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