Carbineer Archive
Thread: Regular defenses or state defenses?
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Tevaghn
Sat Jul 31, 2004 8:18 am
#1
Which do you think is more valuable as a carbineer? ~+100 defense vs. knockdown etc., or capped ranged and melee defense?
TAfirehawk
Sat Jul 31, 2004 10:09 am
#2
Can I answer....get both?
They both have their usefulness but IF I had to choose, I would go with State Defenses.....which I did before picking up Fencer 
Brilyn
Sat Jul 31, 2004 10:20 am
#3
I think State defenses.
If you're Dizzied and KD'd, that +100 Melee defense isn't worth a hell of a lot.
Since I only have a few spare points, I'm taking the 00x0 tree in Pistoleer.
RebelKangaroo
Sat Jul 31, 2004 2:21 pm
#4
Yes, state defenses apply all the time even when not using the weapon with which you got them.
Brilyn
Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:53 pm
#6
With Master Carbineer, you have +15 Defense vs. Knockdown.
Now, for the same points cost (44 or so), you can have either:
+40 Melee Defense.
*Or*
+40 Defense vs. Stun
+40 Defense vs. Blind
+40 Defense vs. Dizzy
+40 Defense vs. Knockdown (for a total of +55).
Now, +40 Melee Defense hardly means that "they can't hit you", but the extra +40 on the States reduces the chances of the state affecting you.
"They can't hit you" is gonna cost a HELL of alot more than 44 pts.
Brilyn
Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:56 pm
#7
granted, the original poster was talking about capping defenses.
But we've all read the thread where the BH/Carbineer mocks the capped defense stacker, right?
Go for state defenses, you can *always* be hit...
TAfirehawk
Sat Jul 31, 2004 6:33 pm
#8
LOL, andI challenge ANY BH/Carbineer to tackle my Carbineer/Fencer/Pistoleer.....
Doq_Utek
Sun Aug 01, 2004 12:07 am
#9
Alittle off topic but, state defences will apply at all times right? I plan on picking up the 00x0 pisoleer tree also but don't plan on using pistols much. Just want to make sure before I waste any time. Thanks
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