Carbineer Archive

Thread: Carbineer and Melee-Choosing a combination.

TAfirehawk
Mon Jun 21, 2004 6:45 am
#53

Here are the details of the template I plan to have.....right now I am Master Carbineer and Master Fencer picking up the Pistoleer part of this....



Master Carbineer
4440 Fencer

0044 Pistoleer

0100 Medic

4400 Combat Prowess

4400 Enhanced Reflexes



Skill Mods:


Carbine Accuracy +142 (+167 from SEA's)

Carbine Accuracy While Moving +30 (+55from SEA's)

Carbine Speed +72 (+97 from SEA's)

Counterattack +105 (+124 from SEA's)

Def. vs. Blind +80

Def. vs. Dizzy +80

Def. vs. Intimidate +45

Def. vs. Knockdown +115

Def. vs. Posture Down +70

Def. vs. Stun +40

Melee Defense +129

Ranged Defense +118 (+128 from Rings)



I can use Travel Biscuits for +18 Terrain Negotiation with a filling of only 8 Food that lasts 11-17 minutes I think.





Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

travenwatts
Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:39 am
#54

where can i find out about the FS skills?


and your template looks a lot like the one i picked out a while back.


Master marks

Master carb

fencer 4440

pistol 0040


with 13 SP left over.


Fencers have a hard time gettingthedizzy/lunge to work on me. I have +25 in speed so i am at +90 total. It would be nice if I didn't have to have master marksman to be put at the speed cap for my high dmg guns. That would free up a lot fo SP to get some more defenses and some hilll-climbing.
TAfirehawk
Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:50 am
#55

http://swgexplorer.dras.us/tc9/menu.htm


All Jedi and FS Skills are here, its not official but close enough to plan around at this point.





Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

EisMan_Buckeye
Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:53 am
#56






TAfirehawk wrote:


I can use Travel Biscuits for +18 Terrain Negotiation with a filling of only 8 Food that lasts 11-17 minutes I think.





Yep, that's what I do, but I often times find myself forgetting to eat them lol. I'm so used to not having TN, it really doesn't bother me.




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AriasImmortal
Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:09 pm
#57

I haven't had scout in months. You just don't need it for high-end PvE and PvP. And yes, I say that after having dragged a giant canyon krayt 2km over mountains... It's just not that useful anymore, and there are MANY better things you can replace it with.



ARIAS TE'THAI
Master Swordsman|Elevator Wh0re
ECHUU|ECHUU-SHEN
Jedi Knight |Mandalorian Enforcer
Day One player/Pre-9 Jedi/PvP God. All gone. Canceled.

Bennyboy4308
Mon Jun 21, 2004 4:32 pm
#58

I've been considering changing my template. Right now I'm Master Carbineer, 3400 BH. I dont want another melee profession in terms of damage, but I'd only pick it up for the defenses and the meditation. Can you honestly say that a Carbineer/Melee stacker is better than a Carbineer/BH?



~Enaw~ [PV/XF Da 800g3ym@n] <RebelemO FactKr>
TAfirehawk
Tue Jun 22, 2004 7:16 am
#59






Bennyboy4308 wrote:

I've been considering changing my template. Right now I'm Master Carbineer, 3400 BH. I dont want another melee profession in terms of damage, but I'd only pick it up for the defenses and the meditation. Can you honestly say that a Carbineer/Melee stacker is better than a Carbineer/BH?







I should have my Carbineer/Fencer/Pistoleer template done by this weekend, so lets /duel and find out which is better





Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

Bennyboy4308
Tue Jun 22, 2004 11:49 am
#60






TAfirehawk wrote:





Bennyboy4308 wrote:

I've been considering changing my template. Right now I'm Master Carbineer, 3400 BH. I dont want another melee profession in terms of damage, but I'd only pick it up for the defenses and the meditation. Can you honestly say that a Carbineer/Melee stacker is better than a Carbineer/BH?







I should have my Carbineer/Fencer/Pistoleer template done by this weekend, so lets /duel and find out which is better






Sadly I'm stuck on a 26kbs modem for another 2 weeks. It'd take 6 hours alone just to download the recent patch.




~Enaw~ [PV/XF Da 800g3ym@n] <RebelemO FactKr>
AdmiralSpy
Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:11 pm
#61






Bennyboy4308 wrote:

I've been considering changing my template. Right now I'm Master Carbineer, 3400 BH. I dont want another melee profession in terms of damage, but I'd only pick it up for the defenses and the meditation. Can you honestly say that a Carbineer/Melee stacker is better than a Carbineer/BH?




It's hard to say. I was Carbineer/3400 BH, then opted in favor of Carbineer/0300BH/Novice Med.. and after a few other builds.. settled on Carbineer/M.Fencer/4003TK/Nov. Med.


At the time of being a BHer, I didn't need Krayt Carbines (speed capped) and hence lost on that potential +70/80 upwards tissue max damage increase.. Ididn't need Accuracy SEAs either.. and having little defense and having started PvP then, died often.


After having PvPed almost everyday since (its been 3-4 months now), I feel that Melee defense stacking is better, simply because the fact that I'm not speedcapped on my Laser/Elite/DXr6 yet (but oh so close) means I find Im using Carbines for long-range states/KDs and then switch to Fencer with an Acklay baton for any form of damage. That, and the fact that a TK can Nexu Grin me for many minutes while Im KDd just makes it feel more viable if you SOLO PvP.


In other words, I can run overt in Theed and manage to take on litterally anyone.. only CM/Riflemen will pose a threat. (And that's a lot of people, sadly.. hehe) I don't know how I'd live without the added defenses. Blinded Riflemen are just that.. blind. Intimidated targets will cry.. and a good way to get out of a Dizzy/KD is to spam /stand;/warcry.. works everytime.. enough to burstrun, pull out the Carbine, KD, and get to work.


Confusion Shot alone makes me drool though.. and being speedcapped, you can CrippleShot and do RAW damage, unlike a Master Carbineer with even +25 speed tapes (2.7 speed weapons are still not that easy to come by.. requires decent tissues and a form-fitted scope, as you know.. if you don't want to sacrifice a slice.)


As for the duel TAfirehawk mentionned? It wouldn't do justice.. I do far better in 1 on 1 duels, simply because I have Master Fencer and can use the bugged ScatterHit on you, and keep you intimidated. In large PvP encounters, when you're firing ConfusionShot at 50m, I'll be wondering how I got Dizzied so fast and where the heck that crippleshot is coming from.





Addy | 'Addy
ex-Photographer
Forever Carbineer
Bennyboy4308
Tue Jun 22, 2004 11:34 pm
#62

Ah, thanks for your insight. In terms of losing BHs speed and dizzy, you could pick up master marksman (the +5 lets you cap much easier if you have +25 in tapes already) and Rifleman 4004. Why rifleman? For the nice long lasting AoE dizzy and the accuracy tree. Just get a nice accurate speed sliced rifle which you can cap it, fire it a few times to get everyone dizzy, then switch to carbines to use the AoE KDs and Posture changes.


Plan A:

Mcarbineer

Rifle 4004

Mmarksman

TKA 4304


Another thought was to get master rifleman (so dirty). Fire AoE dizzy, then use carbines for AoE KD and posturechange, then use a AP3 T21 spamming Strafe2 (maybe a few flushings for a nice AoE stun too). Just raw damage... mmmmm


Plan B:

Mcarbineer

Mrifle

Mmarksman

Pistoleer 0040

Medic 1030


Or of course plan C

Mcarbineer

BH 3400.


I'm really having trouble deciding.



~Enaw~ [PV/XF Da 800g3ym@n] <RebelemO FactKr>
TAfirehawk
Wed Jun 23, 2004 12:04 am
#63






Bennyboy4308 wrote:


Sadly I'm stuck on a 26kbs modem for another 2 weeks. It'd take 6 hours alone just to download the recent patch.







What patch? Publish 9 was delayed until the 29th and the trickle was last week....


And I guess you wouldn't want to duel in Theed or Coronet then.....





Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

Bennyboy4308
Wed Jun 23, 2004 12:05 am
#64

I know, and I havent logged in a week so I still have to download the trickle which will take 6 hours.



~Enaw~ [PV/XF Da 800g3ym@n] <RebelemO FactKr>
TAfirehawk
Wed Jun 23, 2004 12:08 am
#65






Bennyboy4308 wrote:

I know, and I havent logged in a week so I still have to download the trickle which will take 6 hours.







OUCH, how can you go that long without getting your "fix"......





Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

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