Carbineer Archive

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novamarine wrote:

Here are my potential Top 5 Issues ( )for you to review. Please give me your comments. If you find any typos or grammar problems please point those out (mega busy at work so help proofreading is appreciated). I think this list should give me all the ammo I need to make strong arguments to get us fixed. I'll deal with bugs and our few redundant specials once the sandbox is up.

1. HAM Costs

The HAM costs for the various carbine specials are so high that the carbineer skills cannot be effectively used in combat without doctor buffs, extensive food use, or heavy investment into medical skills.

Solution: Lower the HAM costs to bring them in line with other ranged professions.

2. Carbine speed

Currently carbineer has +60 at master and as a result, carbines are the slowest of the ranged elite professions. This makes it difficult to contribute to a group in PvE because other classes are firing faster and thus doing more damage. It also makes engaging in PvP largely futile. The low speed of the class forces players to either accept it, spend millions on speed enhancing tapes, or spend all of their remaining points to add bounty hunter for more speed just to compete with what other professions get at Master.

Solution: A little speed goes a long way. Bringing the class up to +75 speed at master would help infinitely.

3. Defenses

Carbineers lag behind other elite classes in defenses. Even melee classes typically have more ranged defense than carbineers. The class has many AoE/cone specials which draw significant attention to the player. Without sufficient defenses, these skills are more suicidal than practical. In addition, counterattack is not working properly in that it is; #1 not working frequently enough and #2 not “counterattacking” (it appears to be working merely as a dodge).

Solution: Fix counterattack so that it “counterattacks” and activates as often as it should.
Solution: Increase ranged defense.
Solution: Increase resistance to states including stun and blind.

4. Carbine Selection and Effectiveness

Carbineers only have access to carbines that do energy, acid, and heat. These are incredibly common resists in both PvE and PvP. Many high-end targets (for example, certain nightsisters) cannot even be damaged by carbineers meaning they are unable to participate in certain high-end content. Other ranged classes including Pistoleer and Rifleman have access to many more types of damage including stun.

In addition to being unable to even damage certain mobs, many other mobs are merely (<Consider changing to "barely" for a bit more effect )tickled by our damage. In these cases, the reasons is are heavy armor and high percent resists.(May want to ignore last correction and change the sentenceto reinforce the two issues (high AR and high resists) as a whole.) We are a medium-speed weapon profession, yet have only 1 medium armor penetration carbine. This makes it impossible for Carbineers to contribute in a meaningful way in high-end content. The combination of little choice in damage-types and lack of armor penetration makes carbineer unable to participate and enjoy high-end PvE content and “dungeons.” It is highly unfair that this profession is unable to participate in the end game dungeons.

Solution: Increase selection of carbine damage types beyond the most common resists so that Carbineers can be effective in both PvE and PvP. Suggestions include an electricity carbine, cold carbine, and/or stun carbine.

Solution: Increase the AP rating on the DXR6 and/or (I want both )Elite Carbine to AP 2 and/or add new carbines to the game that have AP medium armor penetration ratings.

5. Carbineers have lost distinction

When the game went gold, Carbineers were seen as a crowd control profession because of their knockdowns, posture changes, cone specials, and state-applying specials. Changes to these states have made them much less useful and as such Carbineers have lost their distinction as a crowd control class. Aside from the fundamental difference between the weapons themselves, there is little difference between carbineer and other ranged classes. Right now the only minor thing that separates Carbineers from other classes is the numerous states that carbineer specials can apply to targets. However, these states (stun and blind in particular) are so minor in their effects that many players do not even know what they really do or if they are even working. For example, when something is intimidated (which is available at novice brawler – 15 skill points) it is easy to tell the damage of that target is being reduced. When a master Carbineer (92 skill points)(lose comma)stuns and blinds a target, the effects are minimal and nothing compared to intimidate. Further, it is impossible to apply states to targets in high-end PvE. There isn’t just a low chance, there is zero chance (repeated use of state-applying specials never applies a state). Flip side to this, Jedi walk right up and stun, blind and dizzy high-end targets with easy.(< TA got this one already )

Lastly, other classes such as Pistoleer and Rifleman want states added to their specials which would further erode the uniqueness of Carbineer. (I'm not sure, but I don't think you can erode uniqueness I could be wrong though.

Solution: Posture changes are far less potent and useful than knockdowns as they merely deny movementcompared (whereas) with knockdowns(which) deny movement, deny attacking and increase damage taken by 50%. They merely serve as way to “crowd control” large groups of targets. However, both posture changes and knockdowns have the same 30 second immunity. Please consider reducing the time on posture changes to 15 seconds so that Carbineers can act as crowd controllers again.

Solution: Stun and blind applied from Carbineer (elite profession) are less potent than intimidate (Novice Brawler). Please increase the effectiveness of stun and blind. It is a great disadvantage to be intimidated and Carbineers feel being stunned or blinded should result in a similar penalty.

Solution: Carbineers need to be able to apply states to high-end mobs. This does not need to be a 100% chance but give us reasonable a chance to apply states.

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Brilyn wrote:

< and dosen't pistoleer and rifleman have kinetic guns? >

The Rifleman does *not* have a Kinetic weapon. The Tuskan is Energy. (don't go there. )

The Striker Pistol does Kinetic. However: it's crap. And it's more of a Marksman weapon than a Pistoleer.

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Therascalking3 wrote:

someone needs to tell weaponmaster to listen up (so i guess it will be me)

from the devs:

No Ranged Kinetic Weapons ever (other than the striker pistol which sucks)

The debate is between a Cold/Electric/ or as much as i hate to say it a Stun carbine. Blast is also out of the picture as the devs stated there will be no more blast weapons created. Therefore turn your attention an efforts to the task at hand and stop beating the dead horse.

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