Carbineer Archive

You've exxagerated and fancifully elaborated on my point Myrnoe. Valid problems with this class have been pretty much ignored since launch, I've been playing it since day one (well day 2 really trhe servers were all screwy on day one). My point is don't encourage them. People often see what they want to see despite obvious evidence to the contrary.

Well basiclly it comes down to is you are comparing your specials of a BH to us. You are not even playing the advanced Carbinner you are refering to your brothers charecter. I'll tell you I started playing master marksman at launch and have been a carbinner fan sence the begining. I'm almost a master carbinner 3/3/3/3/ I've been with this class sence about 3 weeks after launch. I can tell you we need to be fixed in a major way and people like you how come into our boards and try to tell us were not broken is a joke!!! Here is an idea for you go into your BH boards and compare your specials there, dont come here and try to tell us things about a proffesion that your not even really playing..........We have issues just like any other proffesion, but in fact we are in need of some attention and we sure dont need a BH telling us otherwise.

charge shot- cripple shot- cripple shot will take me exactly 10 seconds mister bounty hunter with my damage sliced krayt carabine - with a speed powerup I'll admit - I can do it for 6 - oh yes - on top of that it will eat a third of my own ham and make me vuln to 1 shot kill - about half my ham if I wear armor. On top of that if I'm at less than 30 feet I'll miss at least once. And even if I don't miss I'll be dead by the end of those 10 seconds.

lol, for fun I just did Chargeshot for fun - and it's true - I used up more HAM's doing chargeshot - he hit me once and I got incapped.

all I have to said is, after the patch they nerf the kunga so i decide to drop by lok and do some nym mission and try to get some of the new HVFM.

currently heading up to master carbineer, with bh carbine 3 and 4/3/0/3 at moment,, woo woo. nym guards just dies left and right,, eat 2 ryshcake and 1 Boh, hit fire knockdown 3 times, and then 5 scatter 2, 1 nym guards down , npc is dumb too they even go kneel or prone when dizzied

spawn time is so fast only 10 minute on static spawns, getting so much experience, my friend try with pistoleer/bh, there is no way he is outdamaging me with the scatter 2(average 2-3k on the very high cl nym guards)

HAM issues are now mute since you can eat food again without crashing your stats. If you're solely interested in PvP without being a BH I suggest getting Carbineer / Doctor. With strength and stamina over 3000 you won't have any ham costs.

Carbines I believe are not intended for personal solo use. They are best used for a squad of people. The AOE attacks (that work) and stun are a good force multiplier. 1 carbineer vs. 1 pistoleer will be a tough call, but 2 carbineers vs. 2 pistoleers, and you start seeing the effectiveness of carbines in the combat system.

Since mastery of carbineer allows for enough skill points to be allotted to another profession that can aide the carbine side of things, solely looking at carbine vs. 'x' or carbine vs. BH carbine isn't really a good way to look at things.

For example if a TKA also has carbine, the unarmed toughness goes away when they pick up the carbine, but their resistance to KD and dizzy stays the same. And for close encounters they can start punching. If they simply need to retreat they can drop the carbine, and the unarmed toughness kicks in. They can also powerboost before battle, use force-of-will, etc.

A doctor / carbineer can remove stun and dizzy states from themselves, and if they're master doc they can remove the states extremely quickly. The can also buff themselves and use the carbine's specials, and heal themselves and their teammates with stim-D's.

So basically when you say BH carbine is automatically better than Carbineer, you're ignoring the other profs that a carbineer can pick up to augment the carbine.

Anyway, that's my view of it after doing multiple professions before trying Bounty Hunter. And if you really think Bounty Hunter is unjustly balanced, as I did before trying the prof, I suggest you go Bounty Hunter without the dabbling. It's actually a pretty fun class.

-- Ypi

I just started the carbines profession, but have a master pistoleer/MCH (yeah i know i know) on another server and I must say that so far I MUCH prefer the carbine. This may be due to the fact thatI already have access to the best weapon a carbineer can use (laser) at level 3 marksmen, which isn't the case with pistoleer. It is also important to note that I usually only do pve where is seems like the ap2 of the laser carbine helps immensely vs the bugged dx2. Can't wait till I get higher in the tree so I can complain like everyone else.