Carbineer Archive

i dont know where u r getting your nonsencefrom but i kill carbineers daliy with pistoleer... get the facts

There is a trend with how "good" one profession is in pvp over another. Pistoleers can mix with smugg and bh making them potentally the best in pvp. Carbineers can only mix with bh making them more or less moderate in pvp. Riflemen cant mix with any other profession giving them the least potential in pvp.

I know ranges and equipment help also but the general trend is the same. Even though the "tests" say that rifleman is best at long range, alot if not most of the pvp battles occur in close range.

If you want to be l33t in pvp go pistoleer with either smugg or bh, right now there the best.

ScottieFL, I gotta say I thought you were just trying to incite people as well. The reason is that you dont ask whats best, you state whats best and your supporting arguments were so weak. I mean I didn't think you could be serious.

1. Enhanced D? Pistoleers were already way ahead? Umm...Anyone who has done any research on the topic, can easily find out that the defences don't work.Especially if you are focusing on Pistoleers, since it has been one of our top 3 issues for our correspondant since release. There are multiple threads on the testing of Dodge for example, where the rates of dodging did not change with additional dodge bonuses.

2. Kryat FWG5 not being makeable anymore, makes Pistoleers MORE powerful? Umm... umm... umm... Wow that's a tough one to argue, because it is so obvious. I mean you have to twist logic hard to get that to seem like it is an advantage to Pistoleers. I'm talking purple nurple twisting.

3. Guns dont get death decay. Your assertion here is that Bio-engineered clothes are more important to other classes, not pistoleers. Umm... do you think there aren't any Pistol clothes? Do you believe other classes are somehow dependant on clothes? I mean you dont even try to prove this, you just say it and move on.

And these are the Pistoleer's "overwhelming advantages"? I mean, it's either you are trying to incite people or you really believed those 3 reasons gave Pistoleers "overwhelming advantages". I prefered to think you were inciting people.

novemarine: Republic blaster does a little less damage than the DX2, with a poorer damage type (energy vs acid). It's compensation is that it has a +0 accuracy mod at 64m, which dropsgradually to -25 at 0m. Thisis opposite the DX2 whichstarts high at 0m, butdrops quickly below -25 at 15m. Basically you can use the Rep Blaster at range and the DX2 up close.

PvP: Pistoleers get a KD with 8m range. A second bleed. And nothing but random pool damage. Compare that to Carbineer and Rifle specials.

Ya, Jako, I coulda stated things better, lol. My bad, but thanks to you and everyone else for their input.

I've learned a lot and actually, I believe carbineer, pistoleer and rifleman are pretty balanced now. Pistoleer is only better IF the pistoleer gets BH Pistol 4, too.

I believe that might be a little better than BH Carbine 4 and carbineer, but once I start using FKD a lot, I may change my mind about that, too.

The balance has been improved at the (unfortunate?) cost of the FWG5's potential effectiveness. A few issues remain to be resolved though. When the dizzy state / HAM costs / Broken Specials/ andDamage over Time (speed and or damage) issues are dealt with for carbineers I imagine that things will be pretty square for us as a profession.

The DoT issue is easy to see if you watch the combat spam while fighting alongside another profession. The typical damage sliced laser carbine does 500-2000 consistently with cripple shot, but you will see that a number of other classes are still pumpig out 600-1800 damage consistently, 2 - 4 times as fast as the carbineer can fire, with significantly lower HAM costs andwith roughly the same number of skill points spent in the appropriate places.

The broken specials are obvious when used, as is the crippling HAM cost. Someone asked me to kill him in PvP so that he could recover from a diseased state before the wounds got out of control. I just spammed a few cripple shots and turned away for a moment. Looking up I had to heal as I was near incapped and he was still pretty healthy. Despite healing his autoattack actually incapped me before I could finish him and he wasn't even touching the keyboard.

After the patch I tried extensively to capitalize on a dizzy state by using fullautosingle2 with charge shot. A dizzy state lands occassionally (very unreliable which is fine) but has no effect on the mobs which bounce back from knockdowns without batting an eye.

If there was a fix for these issues it would be easy to reccomend this profession to people. As it stands now the only effective use of carbineer is with CH/BH/ or Doctor. But then, those classes work in combination with any combat class so don't consider them proof that the carbineer class is working.

I just dropped Master Carbineer to try something else but IMO Master Carbineer owns Master Pistoleer in PvP.

I've been master carbineer for a month, using a 2.4 speed H17 117/248. My brother is Master Pistoller. We made many tests like him not using medic skills me not using kd, without armor and i owned.

I also begin do regret my decision to drop it. I really loved that profession.

KD, cripple, couple of full auto single 2. Deathblow