Carbineer Archive

Thread: New tactics! Master Carb+BH carb people: read this!

Mafaza
Tue Feb 24, 2004 2:14 pm
#14

If you're into PvP, I recommend dropping medic andgetting morecombat, particularly if you have any BH. Just stay buffed all the time, and migrate all of your stats into mind. It's a pain in the neck, but goodbye muon!


I've also considered going with Nov Brawler, but I'd have to drop one of my carb lines. GRRRR. I'd love to see the look on that TKMs face (or the equivalent) when I bust the warcry/intimidate move on him with the MBH tag up.







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Master Bounty Hunter, chilastra----------------Brawler, Pikeman, Fencer, chilastra
"KD+Dizzy = fun!"-----------------------------------"Wacking with sticks"

Quandry
Thu Feb 26, 2004 3:19 am
#15

you kinda just got to trole the auction forums or loot them yourself. Lot of people do it in the bat caves on rori.



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EfreaK
Thu Feb 26, 2004 7:25 am
#16

The only good BH Carb special is Sprayshot, and it totally owns.
FKD isn't that good.I rarely get to land a dizzy and not even that often get the KD.


What makes BH-Carb good is the speed& accuracy.






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PBR_Streetgang
Thu Feb 26, 2004 12:44 pm
#17

Tempted to move to to Master Carb / BH 3400 but I just can't give up MBH and sprayshot.


Sprayshot is by far and away the best carbine special in the game. Stacked with some nice carbines I'm letting off 400-1100 shot hits at 1 sec per...recently I've found it's barely worth the time to bother with a KD given the significant influx of anti-KD food.


Not to mention many seem to discount the enormous value of confuse and blind states on targets. They are a massive combat multiplier...decreasing the targets defenses while reducing their accuracy.


Currently I am MBH / Carbineer 0340. My accuracy is in the 150-160 range and speed is not an issue w/ a decent carbine and sprayshot for me. The 80 counterattack gives me very worthwhile defenses. Couple this w/ a target's blind state and they miss me 50%-60% of the time. Not bad for a BH.


Buffs and some well invested composite (stun helmet and 84% bases)....time to rock and roll.


Granted if the MC specials ever get fixed area KD/dizzy will be insane.





PBR Streetgang
penne
Thu Feb 26, 2004 8:08 pm
#18

great template but...


**edit** ARE YOU GOING TO DO AGAINST ANYONE WITH 80/90% COMPOSITE ARMOR


not a thing...and if the person your fighitng has a pvp template they will eventually kill you by waiting untill you've hammed yourself to death or just get lucky...i laugh at this template when i face it....i dont even get startled because the armor keeps me safe all day



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TrassNimode
Thu Feb 26, 2004 9:14 pm
#19


You must be joking... this is an offense stacked profession.

A Krayted Damage Sliced Elite with a 7.5x modifier is going to do nothing to you? Remember that I will have the same armor that you have, and your less powerful weapon with a less powerfull modifier will be doing less damage, while I'm spamming 7.5x Cripple every second. Get a clue...




Vane-Bothan Master Carbineer-Radaint.
Tyler-"And why would anybody want this $hit job?"
Jack-"Because it affords him other interesting opportunities."
Tyler-"Like splicing single frames of porno into family films."
Jack-"No one knows they saw it, but they all did."
Tyler-"A nice big c0ck..."
PBR_Streetgang
Fri Feb 27, 2004 9:04 am
#20







penne wrote:

great template but...


**edit** ARE YOU GOING TO DO AGAINST ANYONE WITH 80/90% COMPOSITE ARMOR


not a thing...and if the person your fighitng has a pvp template they will eventually kill you by waiting untill you've hammed yourself to death or just get lucky...i laugh at this template when i face it....i dont even get startled because the armor keeps me safe all day







it has not been an issue whatsoever. not much they can do when they are on their backs on fire and bleeding. not to mention even good armor takes a beating from a well crafted laser carbine at 1 sec sprayshots.


my experience is that this template can handle any other template...even defense stackers. i have tested this time and time again and come out on top more often than not.


Message Edited by PBR_Streetgang on 02-27-2004 08:06 AM

Message Edited by PBR_Streetgang on 02-27-2004 08:08 AM



PBR Streetgang
PBR_Streetgang
Fri Feb 27, 2004 9:14 am
#21






TrassNimode wrote:


You must be joking... this is an offense stacked profession.

A Krayted Damage Sliced Elite with a 7.5x modifier is going to do nothing to you? Remember that I will have the same armor that you have, and your less powerful weapon with a less powerfull modifier will be doing less damage, while I'm spamming 7.5x Cripple every second. Get a clue...







was this directed at me or the other guy?



PBR Streetgang
novamarine
Fri Feb 27, 2004 11:10 am
#22

Publish 7 may reduce the advantage of sprayshot since the fullauto series will now have dizzy.



I myself want to make a template change but at this point I do not know to what. With the coming combat rebalance, too much is up in the air.
PBR_Streetgang
Fri Feb 27, 2004 12:08 pm
#23








novamarine wrote:

Publish 7 may reduce the advantage of sprayshot since the fullauto series will now have dizzy.



I myself want to make a template change but at this point I do not know to what. With the coming combat rebalance, too much is up in the air.






I'd agree to some extent.





The reason why I find sprayshot so effective is due to the additional states it delivers as well as it's strong speed to deliver. Blind and confuse have a huge effect even on defense stacking rifleman etc. I think many people discount how altering confuse and blind can be on your stats.





It's becoming extremely hard to KD ppl these days w/ Thakatillo (sp?). I know I've personally seen the results having engaged TKM's on 7-10 samples and only receiving one KD for a nominal amount of time. Unfortunately, this greatly reduces the dizzy state advantage for us when engaging seasoned and prepared pvpers. I use this example because I see TKM's as the ultimate example of KD skill. Honestly, I now have little fear engaging them even at 5m.





Also, I'd note the rules have completely changed on HAM issues w/ the new foods (buff provided of course and pre the discussion about HAM revamps). Even w/ my high encumberance suits I noticed negligable effects on my bar usage while hammering out specials. There are of course a few exceptions (e.g. perhaps FAS2, etc.).





Regardless, post 7 carbineer seems to be headed towardsthe great profession it should be. But of course...things change daily.


grr keeps messing up my paragraphs.

Message Edited by PBR_Streetgang on 02-27-2004 11:10 AM


Message Edited by PBR_Streetgang on 02-27-2004 11:11 AM

Message Edited by PBR_Streetgang on 02-27-2004 11:12 AM



PBR Streetgang
novamarine
Fri Feb 27, 2004 12:54 pm
#24






PBR_Streetgang wrote:








The reason why I find sprayshot so effective is due to the additional states it delivers as well as it's strong speed to deliver. Blind and confuse have a huge effect even on defense stacking rifleman etc. I think many people discount how altering confuse and blind can be on your stats.






The fullauto series all adds blind, stun and dizzy. In essence, they are the same as Sprayshot. However, it is my understanding that sprayshot has a better chance to deliver those. I really wish I had the ability to quickly gain Master BH because I am really interested in testing which build is the better "Uber Carbineer".


TrassNimode
Fri Feb 27, 2004 4:01 pm
#25

PBR, that was directed entirely at the other guy.



Vane-Bothan Master Carbineer-Radaint.
Tyler-"And why would anybody want this $hit job?"
Jack-"Because it affords him other interesting opportunities."
Tyler-"Like splicing single frames of porno into family films."
Jack-"No one knows they saw it, but they all did."
Tyler-"A nice big c0ck..."
Eimi
Sat Feb 28, 2004 12:03 am
#26






penne wrote:

great template but...


**edit** ARE YOU GOING TO DO AGAINST ANYONE WITH 80/90% COMPOSITE ARMOR


not a thing...and if the person your fighitng has a pvp template they will eventually kill you by waiting untill you've hammed yourself to death or just get lucky...i laugh at this template when i face it....i dont even get startled because the armor keeps me safe all day







This guy is INSANE!!!!!!


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