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Thread: Carbineer-March's Flavor of the Month

KOBALDONWANDERHOME
Sun Feb 29, 2004 11:42 am
#14






NeoEcks wrote:

'dood you are so overpowered! just admit it. no other class can dizzy and knock down groups of people! not even TKMs can AoE dizzy. you need a nerf.'





actually.... pikeman can just not from range



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KardenTyrell
Sun Feb 29, 2004 5:48 pm
#15

"Did they announce the Charge Shot change? Did they even announce the KD/Posture Changetimer change? I think not they just did it."



actually they did announce it and pushed it all with "We're working on it" standard response. Those changes will hit testcenter first usually....




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Swimkng
Sun Feb 29, 2004 8:38 pm
#16

I suggest that you get your carbineer skills NOW, before publish 7 comes out. I can just see the mobs of angry people yelling NERF at us, so you might as well surprise and kill them as soon as publish 7 comes out hehe. If we're going to get yelled NERF at us, we might as well take some of those people yelling it out before they start hehe
OnlyMaestro
Sun Feb 29, 2004 8:42 pm
#17

Still gonna be Rifleman. Carbineers are gonna be good, frontline finally -- but not what rifleman can do.


Carbineers are good tho.


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clonecenter-resident
Sun Feb 29, 2004 8:42 pm
#18

Maybe I forgot how to read but once everyone started talking about all this I read the notes and I read it to say that they were gonna fix the aoe on BURSTSHOT2not chargeshot2....Am I wrong?



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wilibus
Mon Mar 01, 2004 1:47 am
#19






KOBALDONWANDERHOME wrote:





NeoEcks wrote:

'dood you are so overpowered! just admit it. no other class can dizzy and knock down groups of people! not even TKMs can AoE dizzy. you need a nerf.'






actually.... pikeman can just not from range




Pikeman can .... if they hit. Also if Dizzy works like the stun and blind on the fullAuto specials, then with the amount of shots that will be required to actually Dizzy an entire group, whoever you are fighting will have you dead.I can see carbineers being the Flavour of the Day. Alot of people will have combat XP saved up, get novice carbineer, shoot up the Carbine Specials tree and get these "uber" just to start complaining that they don't add a reliable dizzy, unless of course they change it so the fullAuto specials add stun/dizzy/blind reliably and then i will be the first one to yell nerf bat, just to get those uber l33t pwnz0rs away from our class









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NeoEcks
Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:50 am
#20






KOBALDONWANDERHOME wrote:





NeoEcks wrote:

'dood you are so overpowered! just admit it. no other class can dizzy and knock down groups of people! not even TKMs can AoE dizzy. you need a nerf.'






actually.... pikeman can just not from range






WAIT WAIT WAIT!! HOLD ON A SECOND. often times people do not read an ENTIRE thread, and just the last few posts. THAT snip from my original post was what i know OTHERS will be saying

NOT WHAT I THINK!!!


okay, i just had to make that clear to everyone who may have skimmed over the post and missed the entire converstation. i know full well about the AoEs of the classes, what i was saying is often times the uneducated masses that are Nerfy McNerfsalot's followers DO NOT know what they are talking about. they get killed in a fight quickly and they Alt+Tab to the boards and cry nerf


proof of this lay in the fact that in almost every post i have made in the combat medic forum i have to repeatedly point out the fact that poisons tick once every 10 seconds and diseases tick once every 40. i cannot tell you how often nerf herders clame they have been 'pawned in 6 seconds by a poison / disease combo' this is quite simply impossible.


at any rate, i wanted to clear up the spreading of that particular snip from my post




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wilibus
Mon Mar 01, 2004 7:41 am
#21

NeoEcks, i don't see how that point pertains to this discussion, simply put no one is flaming you for an opinion you didn't have.


Kobald was merely stating an AoE dizzy and KD are not the uber rare carbine only specials that will destroy everything in PvP. This was a disscussion about how carbineers will soon be the flavour of the month. The arguement you stated in your post about carbineers being able to do something no other prof could was corrected.


Also for my little flame snip now, using a large bright green font do you really expect people to take you seriously? I mean c'mon show a little bit of dignity.








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Quandry
Mon Mar 01, 2004 7:53 am
#22

also about aoe dizzy...if you have say 5 enemies attacking id bet at minimum 3 shots to get a dizzy stick on them all...minimum! then you go for your kd...think you will get them all ? No way. And so you shoot aoe kd again...the ones that droped are forced up and you drop a couple others. It will be nice and handy yes but far far from over powered.



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wyx1
Mon Mar 01, 2004 8:57 am
#23

lets get one thing straight, Chargeshot2 (area KD) is not on the list to be fixed in publish 7.



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wilibus
Mon Mar 01, 2004 9:32 am
#24






Quandry wrote:
also about aoe dizzy...if you have say 5 enemies attacking id bet at minimum 3 shots to get a dizzy stick on them all...minimum! then you go for your kd...think you will get them all ? No way. And so you shoot aoe kd again...the ones that droped are forced up and you drop a couple others. It will be nice and handy yes but far far from over powered.





It takes me a minimum of 3 shots toget a status effectwith FAS2 on ONE target. Assuming you hit every target with every shot (i never seem to hit anything but my primary target with AoE know, not sure if that is a bug or not) it will take a min of 3 shots to get a status on the 5 targets, and know there is a 1 in 3 chance it is a dizzy. In the meantime your five opponents have ganked you hardcore. I think this fix goes towards solidifing the carbineer as a support role. Can you imagine if you 4 allies and they give you long enough to land those states on your target?


This fix is going to help the carbineers and at first i think Carbineers are going to have the FOTM feel to them but true FOTMers are going to very dissapointed once they realize exactly how these specials work










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DoctorCoryn
Mon Mar 01, 2004 10:38 am
#25






novamarine wrote:

No way.


Rifleman with their +90 speed, MASSIVE defenses, ability to hit mind and AoE special with dizzy will still remain the flavor of the month.







/agree completely


headshot3, strafeshot2, ranged DB, HUGE defenses... the Riflemen aren't going away


sure there'll be the bandwagoner 10-year-old, but he'll go back to Rifleman after he getscrushed by allthe Rifle/CM's out there




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NeoEcks
Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:25 pm
#26






wilibus wrote:

...Also for my little flame snip now, using a large bright green font do you really expect people to take you seriously? I mean c'mon show a little bit of dignity.






you are right wilibus we should all be white...eeerrr, type in white to be taken seriously. the only way we can any dignity is to conform. i am done there


but i digress, i am beginning to agree more and more with novamarine in that we do not have the 'Uber' weapons other classes have been handed. we do not at a T1 or an Ion Rifle. we do not have an FWG5 or a Geonosian Sonic pistol. i believe there will be an influx, but i also believe that many will drop it as quickly as they picked it up when they realize they don't have access to the best weapons in the game.




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