Carbineer Archive
Thread: carbineer specials emphasize aoe attacks, but aoe attacks are borked: help!
Mild-Breeze-Trooper wrote:
CM/Carbineer? Just put a area action poison, one area action bleed and then hammer leg shot on the mobs one at a time. Now it Leg shot 3 just could do more damage than Leg Shot 2...
TAfirehawk wrote:
I promise you they work effectively and as advertised as CONE EFFECT, not Area of Effect, Specials. I can drop a group of EIGHT ER's as fast or faster than any other template in the game......usually its no contest in PvE with my template.
LOL.....CM can't touch my kill ratein PvE.....unless he can somehow get near 1500 DPS with poison.....LOL
For ER's I do 850 DPS without a powerup.....let a CM compete with that damage every second.....
It takes me at most 45 seconds to take down 8 ER's 
Of course that is after I wait about 15 seconds or so to get the full spawn out 
So lets just call it one full minute....
Message Edited by TAfirehawk on 05-27-2004 12:48 PM
Just wanted to hear it said
TAfirehawk wrote:
Mild-Breeze-Trooper wrote:
CM/Carbineer? Just put a area action poison, one area action bleed and then hammer leg shot on the mobs one at a time. Now it Leg shot 3 just could do more damage than Leg Shot 2...
TAfirehawk wrote:
I promise you they work effectively and as advertised as CONE EFFECT, not Area of Effect, Specials. I can drop a group of EIGHT ER's as fast or faster than any other template in the game......usually its no contest in PvE with my template.
LOL.....CM can't touch my kill ratein PvE.....unless he can somehow get near 1500 DPS with poison.....LOL
For ER's I do 850 DPS without a powerup.....let a CM compete with that damage every second.....
I'm a hardCore PvPer and AOE works fine, they also stick fine... I would actually lower the other combat classes and use carbineer stick standards for most professions except BH dizzy...
Our dizzy sticks for maybe 20 seconds... TKM dizzy can stick for 60 second at times...
Rorenikibi wrote:
I have yet to find a pet that will hold an aggro since the Publish 5 nerf.
More than once I've had a pet, with better than 50% health, suddenly bolt 80 or 100 meters away with the aggro in tow.
Droids are better, but expensive to keep in good repair.
I don't mind the running battles. I keep an array of carbines now, and I check my targets for what they are most vulnerable against before opening up. It usually shaves 5 seconds off the time to kill by paying a little extra attention so I can drop them a bit faster once they charge.
Pets do tend to run around a bit, so I have them attack the lair.....works perfectly every time
And the sudden bolt is just lag.....
Mild-Breeze-Trooper wrote:
Just wanted to hear it said
TAfirehawk wrote:
Mild-Breeze-Trooper wrote:
CM/Carbineer? Just put a area action poison, one area action bleed and then hammer leg shot on the mobs one at a time. Now it Leg shot 3 just could do more damage than Leg Shot 2...
TAfirehawk wrote:
I promise you they work effectively and as advertised as CONE EFFECT, not Area of Effect, Specials. I can drop a group of EIGHT ER's as fast or faster than any other template in the game......usually its no contest in PvE with my template.
LOL.....CM can't touch my kill ratein PvE.....unless he can somehow get near 1500 DPS with poison.....LOL
For ER's I do 850 DPS without a powerup.....let a CM compete with that damage every second.....
And most know me that I don't have a problem speaking my mind, especially when the MATH proves the FACTS of the situation.
But remember this is NOT PvP.....damn CM's......
Don't be too sure about that kill rate, TA. I've been smacked with 1500+ damage per tick Mind sludge, courtesy of Mr. Acklay.
Absolutely no way to make a living, I tell you.
Message Edited by Rorenikibi on 05-27-2004 02:59 PM
rorenbiki wrote:
The biggest thing I bet I am seeing are people who stand still during missions and let enemies gather on them. In order to keep that cone width wide at the target, you've got to keep the space between you and them open. Even if they are only a few meters behind you, keeping them all on one side of you keeps them in the area effect cone.
That means you're starting at 45-65 meters when you open fire and you're doing your damnedest to keep that distance there. If you get into CQC, change up your shots and pick them off one at a time.
TAfirehawk wrote:
Mild-Breeze-Trooper wrote:
CM/Carbineer? Just put a area action poison, one area action bleed and then hammer leg shot on the mobs one at a time. Now it Leg shot 3 just could do more damage than Leg Shot 2...
TAfirehawk wrote:
I promise you they work effectively and as advertised as CONE EFFECT, not Area of Effect, Specials. I can drop a group of EIGHT ER's as fast or faster than any other template in the game......usually its no contest in PvE with my template.
LOL.....CM can't touch my kill ratein PvE.....unless he can somehow get near 1500 DPS with poison.....LOL
For ER's I do 850 DPS without a powerup.....let a CM compete with that damage every second.....
It takes me at most 45 seconds to take down 8 ER's
Message Edited by TAfirehawk on 05-27-2004 12:48 PM
As much as I like the carbineers 'cone'....I love the pikeman 'circle'! Pikeman is like the melee carbineer, doing massive area damage to not only a cone, but a sphere! Not saying I could do more dps with my pikes than with my carbines, but I dont need tanks with my pike! And I get all the same state benefits (ie. group kd, stun, dizzy). I love pikeman/carbineer
Rorenikibi wrote:
Don't be too sure about that kill rate, TA. I've been smacked with 1500+ damage per tick Mind sludge, courtesy of Mr. Acklay.
Absolutely no way to make a living, I tell you.
Message Edited by Rorenikibi on 05-27-2004 02:59 PM
Ummm, I know Acklay on Chilastra and he is a Master Fencer, not CM LOL LOL
A guy in my PA is actually named Acklay
But anyways, you are talking about something totally different......we are talking about a PLAYER doing damage in PvE.....not the damage we receive in PvE
Lihpson wrote:
As much as I like the carbineers 'cone'....I love the pikeman 'circle'! Pikeman is like the melee carbineer, doing massive area damage to not only a cone, but a sphere! Not saying I could do more dps with my pikes than with my carbines, but I dont need tanks with my pike! And I get all the same state benefits (ie. group kd, stun, dizzy). I love pikeman/carbineer
TAfirehawk wrote:
Rorenikibi wrote:
Don't be too sure about that kill rate, TA. I've been smacked with 1500+ damage per tick Mind sludge, courtesy of Mr. Acklay.
Absolutely no way to make a living, I tell you.
Message Edited by Rorenikibi on 05-27-2004 02:59 PM
Ummm, I know Acklay on Chilastra and he is a Master Fencer, not CM LOL LOL
A guy in my PA is actually named Acklay
I've been hit bya mister Ackley power hammer for 1500, didn't feel good.
Anyways, my biggest gripe about the AoEs is that we can't use them in most of the big dungeons for fear of agroing mass baddies.