Carbineer Archive

Thread: Master Carbine + Master Bounty Hunter

kettmalice
Tue May 25, 2004 3:31 pm
#14

Thats with really good tissues with a dmg slice and pu. I cant seem to land a state on any high end mobs but I can kd super battle droids like maybe 1/5 the time......kinda stupid.




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pentjaksilat
Tue May 25, 2004 9:10 pm
#15






Godswarrior493 wrote:

Would appreciate the mitigation info again thx.








Knowledge Base:


What is Damage Mitigation?


Damage Mitigation is a defense against attacks that you get at various points on an Elite Combat Profession tree (eg. Pistoleer ). With Pistoleer you get Ranged Damage Mitigation (as opposed to Melee).


Damage mitigation doesn't reduce the TOTAL damage done to you -- it reduces the RANGE of damage that can be done to you. What does that mean? Well let's take an example:


Someone shoots you with a weapon that has 50-300 damage (50 is the minimum damage that can be done and 300 is the maximum). With no damage mitigation the damage done to you can be anywhere between 50 and 300 points.


With damage mitigation it reduces the RANGE of damage.


Here's the breakdown:


mitigation1 limits damage to 80% of the range (20% reduction)
mitigation2 limits damage to 60% of the range (40% reduction)
mitigation3 limits damage to 40% of the range (60% reduction)


So let's take that example:


Instead of 50 to 300 damage,


With mitigation1 the damage done to you is reduced to between 50 and 250.
With mitigation2 the damage done to you is reduced to between 50 and 200.
With mitigation3 the damage done to you is reduced to between 50 and 150.


The flipside to this means that Minimum Damage is now much more important than before, so your favorite weapon (a 60-500 Krayt modified pistol, for example) might have significant disadvantages in some situations.





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AriasImmortal
Tue May 25, 2004 10:31 pm
#16

Um, most of the time i get pegged by Kronic's cripplingshots for over 1k... its insane.



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pentjaksilat
Wed May 26, 2004 12:02 am
#17






Kronic_DLE wrote:

Mcarbineer +3400 BH is way better than MBH and anything.... I got a 770 max damage laser carbine and i hit people for about 500 damage AFTER armor at the speed cap while they are STANDING





currently...geo eyeshotting is going to beat out hunting w/ your carbine anyday...770max laser carbine? 500damage after armor?

let's say 100-770dmg laser carbine...mitigates to 100-368. 234 avg.

ar1 brings that to 293 w/ piercing.

cripplingshot/scatter2 takes that to 2194.

PVP takes that to 548.

80% resist takes that to 109.

90% resist takes that to 55.

90% + imp_PSG takes that to around 27.

and that's all random pool...so your actual dps to health is 55% of those numbers. sorry if i sound a bit skeptical, but 500dmg AFTER armor while standing in PVP...well, you're using something other than a carbine if they're wearingeven poorarmor and mitigating.


~pentjak



retired: 09/02/'04.
RIP Dunadan
...being perfected in a short time, he fulfilled long years; for his soul was pleasing to the Lord, therefore he took him quickly from the midst of wickedness...

Ajo79
Wed May 26, 2004 4:19 am
#18

Combining Carbineer and BH Carbines is very powerful. I'm on my way to master BH and I'm planning to keep 0300 Carbineer for Crippling shot. But from a pure Carbineer perspectice master Carbineer+BH Carbines III would be better I think. Cripplingshot with great speed+accurcy is a very nice PvE attack. I have yet to try MBH Sprayshot which people say is even better.


I'm definatly thinking of mastering Carbineer again. Not sure about whichcombo though. A Carbineer/Commando combo would be pretty cool IMHO. Now we speak about a real Commando





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Califerous
Wed May 26, 2004 6:46 am
#19

I'm just going to keep it simple myself. I might not be that great at pvp with the MCarbineer/BH0400 but it will help me take npcs so I can get missions and loot faster. I don't pvp alone anyways because if I'm carbineer and they are buffed I won't stand a chance.


The only thing is, I'm grinding and grinding, but I don't see how you could grind carbineer without buffs. The missions it spawns for you are tough as nails and unless you can use a lot of specials I end up having to run out. Any suggestions from how you guys pumped out on these two professions?






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NippyBooBoo
Thu May 27, 2004 2:18 pm
#20



Califerous wrote:

I'm just going to keep it simple myself. I might not be that great at pvp with the MCarbineer/BH0400 but it will help me take npcs so I can get missions and loot faster. I don't pvp alone anyways because if I'm carbineer and they are buffed I won't stand a chance.

The only thing is, I'm grinding and grinding, but I don't see how you could grind carbineer without buffs. The missions it spawns for you are tough as nails and unless you can use a lot of specials I end up having to run out. Any suggestions from how you guys pumped out on these two professions?






Play buffed. It is the only way. And get a set of composite armor and brandy to go with those buffs. Especially when your firing at the speedcap.



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Bennyboy4308
Thu May 27, 2004 2:20 pm
#21

Since I picked up carbineer 2 months ago, and BH a month ago, I've only tried fighting unbuffed once, and the Bol killed me.



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Bersk
Thu May 27, 2004 7:10 pm
#22

Id have to say Master carbineer/BH 3 carbines/novice medic

is the faster combination in the game at the moment.

Its a muchfaster combo then master BH/carbineer

I have 105 speed 180 accuracy and 105 counterattack.

The rate of fire is simply incredible! i cant get special attacks out fast enough.

Though i can only fight buffed...

I find i counteratack very often too... which comes in helpfull

Fighting unbuffed and useing Specials is suicide as you incap yourself too often

as the HAM costs are insane.


My recomendation is that if you are master carbineer pick up BH 3 carbines..

Its a choice you'll never regret.


TAfirehawk
Fri May 28, 2004 6:00 am
#23






Bersk wrote:

Id have to say Master carbineer/BH 3 carbines/novice medic

is the faster combination in the game at the moment.

Its a muchfaster combo then master BH/carbineer

I have 105 speed 180 accuracy and 105 counterattack.

The rate of fire is simply incredible! i cant get special attacks out fast enough.

Though i can only fight buffed...

I find i counteratack very often too... which comes in helpfull

Fighting unbuffed and useing Specials is suicide as you incap yourself too often

as the HAM costs are insane.


My recomendation is that if you are master carbineer pick up BH 3 carbines..

Its a choice you'll never regret.









Well I Speed Cap my Krayt Carbines at +84 Carbine Speed......anything above +90 Carbine Speed is only useful IF you have a weapon slower than 4.0


I have +149 Accuracy and +55 Accuracy While Moving and add in +124 Counterattack.



AND I GET ALL THIS WITH NO BH



BH is not the only way to be a Carbineer.....thank goodness.....





Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

novamarine
Fri May 28, 2004 6:44 am
#24






TAfirehawk wrote:


I have +149 Accuracy and +55 Accuracy While Moving and add in +124 Counterattack.


AND I GET ALL THIS WITH NO BH


BH is not the only way to be a Carbineer.....thank goodness.....





It takes time, money and excellent auctioning skills, but it can be done.

Bennyboy4308
Fri May 28, 2004 7:24 am
#25






novamarine wrote:





TAfirehawk wrote:


I have +149 Accuracy and +55 Accuracy While Moving and add in +124 Counterattack.


AND I GET ALL THIS WITH NO BH


BH is not the only way to be a Carbineer.....thank goodness.....






It takes time, money and excellent auctioning skills, but it can be done.







Or, you can have both. When I finish grinding back to master carbineer I'll have 215 accuracy. What stacker? I need to find some counterattack and moving tapes though.



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TAfirehawk
Fri May 28, 2004 7:29 am
#26

Oh I forgot to mention my Krayt Carbines with SCOPES that take Ideal to +70 or higher


WHAT Defense Stacker



There is NO WAY in the Galaxy that I would pickup BH for only Accuracy.....especially when I have +40% Accuracy food. So if you add up the Scopes and Food my Accuracy has to be way over 200 WOOT NO BH






Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

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