Carbineer Archive

Thread: An odd positive FULLAUTO2 bug?? Screenshot inside...

Ypiana
Thu Dec 11, 2003 9:47 pm
#14

Just looks like to me there were 11 Tusken Raidersin your area of effect, which is quite easy up in the Fort. In fact this looks perfectly normal to me. My combat log is always open and I've gone through carbineer twice and sprayed full auto area 2 for hours and never seen one target absorb 11,000 points of damage.


-- Ypi




I killed my parents... You're next!
/godmode 1
HernandezBallin
Fri Dec 12, 2003 1:03 am
#15

It definately was a one shot kill on that tusken raider...


I played with it a little more while I grinded up to master assault tactics, and I couldn't ever get it to work on demand. If someone that knows (perhaps the first replier) how to get this to work every time i'd appreciate it. I was using a DXR6 at 3-4-3-4. It happened around 3 times yesterday but I didn't see any real similarities in the occurances.


I'd really like to "exploit" this nifty bug as much as possible as I only have 450XP left before master.




The attic was less to us from the cellar the bones like the attic let them have it let them stay in the attic. When they sometimes come down the stairs at night and stand perplexed behind the door and headboard of the bed brushing that chalky skull with chalky fingers with sounds like the dry rattling of a shutter. Thats what I sit up in the dark to say.
Indicant
Fri Dec 12, 2003 2:17 am
#16

If it's a bug it should be fixed. Talking about it here at length will A: not be noticed since devs dont read this board, and B: encourage people to scream for us to get nerfed based on the inevitable rumors it will start. It might exist but it must be rare as hens teeth. I was spammingFAA all night just to see if it would show up. If everyone who sees it /bugs it it should get taken care of,- at least a few months before our dizzy sticks.
Ypiana
Fri Dec 12, 2003 3:38 am
#17

I'll make a char on Radiant so you can show me. Otherwise, the guy shot 11 Tuskens. Notice no XP reward for shooting the 11 Tuskens, he just did FAA2 on a group of them.


-- Ypi




I killed my parents... You're next!
/godmode 1
HernandezBallin
Fri Dec 12, 2003 2:02 pm
#18

I had to scroll up on my combat window to show the damage so obviously you arne't seeing theXP on my screen or spatial box.


And secondly, the fort spawns commoners, raiders, snipers, chiefs, captains, warlords as normal spawn. I hovered my mouse over the dead commoner (who wasn't hit by the area attack in my combat window) to show that the dead one on the floor was indeed not a "raider"


So the 11 or so times it said I hit a tusken raider, and only a tusken raider.


The odds of me having 11 "Raiders" knocked down, and hitting them all with my Fullauto2 attack is extremely, extremely low.


I knocked down an entire room last night and couldn't get fullauto2 to hit more than 4 or 5 of them. As for my original screen shot, the other tusken laying down on the floor were not all raiders, a mix of commoners with one or two (chief, captian, warlord) also.


Here goes another screeny showing how fencer + carbineer equals NPC knockdown God. You'll see my screen shot and will just have to take my word for it that all of the ones on the floor are alive and dizzy+KD but most of them are commoners and raiders which give me 110 and 800 XP respectively.


http://members.cox.net/what316/screenShot0211.jpg



^^ After that screen shot was taken I took off the armor and tried fullautoarea2 from just about every spot in that room and couldn't ever get it to hit all of them.




The attic was less to us from the cellar the bones like the attic let them have it let them stay in the attic. When they sometimes come down the stairs at night and stand perplexed behind the door and headboard of the bed brushing that chalky skull with chalky fingers with sounds like the dry rattling of a shutter. Thats what I sit up in the dark to say.
Eldudorino
Fri Dec 12, 2003 3:29 pm
#19

Hernandez,


How is your trying to figure out how to use this bug at will any less of an exploit than Imps killing Imp npc's?


Your such a hypocrite...You were one of the biggest whiners in the Corbantis thread, then you come here and do the same thing. So, since its not reb npcs, that makes it ok?????


Sorry to bring this to this board guys- but I despise people calling anyone else but themselves exploiters.





Bake fash
~ I am a carbineer. I am not expected to get the glory but to get the job done ~
HernandezBallin
Fri Dec 12, 2003 4:29 pm
#20

Yes, since I would use it JUST to get myself the rest of the carbine XP sure.. it's still an exploit but I wouldn't be griefing also.


-Dark was attacking imperial holocron dropper dark troopers by using an exploit to attack their own faction, when done correctly the dark troopers would not even fight back, I saw it with my own eyes.


Secondly, the guild would kill any rebel that gained TEF in the area.


They LEFT, because they were told to leave by developers and or CSR's and dont even begin to deny that.


So what I would be doing would be an exploit that I dont even believe is repeatable regardless of your knowledge of the exploit.. And what -dark was doing was farming holocrons with no chance of death via an exploit and griefing rebels whenever they got the chance.




The attic was less to us from the cellar the bones like the attic let them have it let them stay in the attic. When they sometimes come down the stairs at night and stand perplexed behind the door and headboard of the bed brushing that chalky skull with chalky fingers with sounds like the dry rattling of a shutter. Thats what I sit up in the dark to say.
Eldudorino
Fri Dec 12, 2003 4:47 pm
#21

1. The troopers DO fight back... Ive been in the same situation at the Dant Imp outpost, and they definately fight back. Its fun actually, I got blown to bits by the ATST, I felt like a rebel for once.


2. Killing a TEF'd rebel in an imperial base is NOT griefing. Funny how rebs never considered all their rush attacks in Theed med center griefing, before we Imps became organized.


3. Sorry but theres no way killing any type of NPC could be griefing. All they were doing is stealing holocrons from rebels, cuz everyone know the drop rate at that base is very good. I wonder why all the jedi are mostly rebels? Hmm...





Bake fash
~ I am a carbineer. I am not expected to get the glory but to get the job done ~
EpYoNTiamat
Fri Dec 12, 2003 7:31 pm
#22






Ypiana wrote:

I'll make a char on Radiant so you can show me. Otherwise, the guy shot 11 Tuskens. Notice no XP reward for shooting the 11 Tuskens, he just did FAA2 on a group of them.


-- Ypi






I should be on later tonight, if you want, start one on talus, we'll be going to the Imperial PvE battlefield.



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Yumil Zabuza [COBRA] - Ahazi Swordsman and Doctor
Tullius_Cicero
Sat Dec 13, 2003 1:58 am
#23

This is almost certainly real -- there is a similar post on the Pistoleer forum, as the same thing happens with Fanshot from time to time -- all the shots hit one target, which, obviously is enough to one-hit alot of stuff.
FlipFantasy
Sat Dec 13, 2003 9:19 am
#24

How is this an exploit????

If you use Machine Gun to mow down one person in a small room...

Guess What 10-15 rounds are going to go into that person to screw him up...

Are carbines not supposed to be the semi-auto / fully-automatic gun class of SWG??
So if you use a machine gun irl.. if you shot a person with an volley of automatic fire... what would you expect?



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EpYoNTiamat
Sat Dec 13, 2003 11:52 am
#25






FlipFantasy wrote:
How is this an exploit????

If you use Machine Gun to mow down one person in a small room...

Guess What 10-15 rounds are going to go into that person to screw him up...

Are carbines not supposed to be the semi-auto / fully-automatic gun class of SWG??
So if you use a machine gun irl.. if you shot a person with an volley of automatic fire... what would you expect?




It's not how the carbine was meant in this game.



Yumil Kazakani - Imperial of Radiant Master Swords/Master Armorsmith
Yumil Zabuza [COBRA] - Ahazi Swordsman and Doctor
Nerj
Mon Dec 15, 2003 5:33 am
#26

YEs, but the carbine is a Multi-target weapon which is why the DEVs put it at such high HAM costs. More than likely what happens is, non-attackable targets are getting hit by the shot. However, since they are non-attackable the DMG is displayed on the target(s) that are attackable. An exploit maybe, but I think that they only way for all the DMG to be reported is in this manner. Which is probably why there has been no attention paid to the matter.



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