Carbineer Archive
Thread: So what carbine does the most damage these days?
YoullNeverKnowWhoIAM wrote:Well, the Proton hasn't got the best damage, but it has a Base DPS of 332 or 333, so I think that the Proton carb PWNZ!But there is a minor drawback: The requirememnt of being a MBH.
The Proton Carbine is a very balanced, high end Carbine. Only very well made E11 Mk.IIs and Elite Carbines will outclass it.
What helps the Proton Carbine, especially with Elemental fixes, is the Cold damage.
"If they can be fooled, they can be killed."
Lycantha wrote:
YoullNeverKnowWhoIAM wrote:
Well, the Proton hasn't got the best damage, but it has a Base DPS of 332 or 333, so I think that the Proton carb PWNZ!
More than one drawback.. High SAC, 0 accuracy, and Elemental figured into the DPS. Crafted Mk IIs and Elites will outperform it easily.
A SAC of 85 is not high. I spam critical shot and leg shot all day with no problems if I have a blob candy (which lasts for 50+ minutes) If I dont have a candy Ill still have time to finish off 1-2 high lvl mobs. I dont know any E11 mk's that can do that unless they are extremely well made. 0 accuracy? Exagerate much?
I ADK'd my proton and added a 33% damage pup, it has 350 base dps and a max damage of 1011. While an elite or E11 can out damage this id like to see how much one of those cost plus how many pre-cu kryat tissues it would take compared to a free rifle with elemental dmg.
Well first off, about the lego dancing video thing, it some band called O-zone from Europe. just to clear things up
second off, the Proton carbine is perfect for me because it took me 20 minutes to get from an easy quest. Stats dont matter to me the price does 
There are better carbines but im not willing to drop 7 mill for 400 base DPS on my server hehe.
MeilanEisley wrote:
Lycantha wrote:
YoullNeverKnowWhoIAM wrote:
Well, the Proton hasn't got the best damage, but it has a Base DPS of 332 or 333, so I think that the Proton carb PWNZ!
More than one drawback.. High SAC, 0 accuracy, and Elemental figured into the DPS. Crafted Mk IIs and Elites will outperform it easily.
A SAC of 85 is not high. I spam critical shot and leg shot all day with no problems if I have a blob candy (which lasts for 50+ minutes) If I dont have a candy Ill still have time to finish off 1-2 high lvl mobs. I dont know any E11 mk's that can do that unless they are extremely well made. 0 accuracy? Exagerate much?I ADK'd my proton and added a 33% damage pup, it has 350 base dps and a max damage of 1011. While an elite or E11 can out damage this id like to see how much one of those cost plus how many pre-cu kryat tissues it would take compared to a free rifle with elemental dmg.
0 accuracy Bonus.. read the stats much?
33% damage PwP? LOL how's your speed doing? That may be why you find that level of SAC adequate.
It's not the best gun, period. I made 50 of the following, pre CU stocks, No tissues etc, common crate run weapons that I sell for for far less than what protons sell for.
Elites, Stats Withs Powerups
21% Damage No penalty..............20% Speed no Penalty
559-1013...........................462-916
17 accu bonus......................17 accu bonus
base 343 dps.......................Base 376.87 DPS
76 SAC.............................76 SAC
The damage powered up version is very close to the performance of your Proton, and with +17 accu bonus and far less SAC. Consider these are bulk run Elites, and not "special" guns also.
Message Edited by Lycantha on 06-28-2005 03:55 PM
Lycantha wrote:
MeilanEisley wrote:
Lycantha wrote:
YoullNeverKnowWhoIAM wrote:
Well, the Proton hasn't got the best damage, but it has a Base DPS of 332 or 333, so I think that the Proton carb PWNZ!
More than one drawback.. High SAC, 0 accuracy, and Elemental figured into the DPS. Crafted Mk IIs and Elites will outperform it easily.
A SAC of 85 is not high. I spam critical shot and leg shot all day with no problems if I have a blob candy (which lasts for 50+ minutes) If I dont have a candy Ill still have time to finish off 1-2 high lvl mobs. I dont know any E11 mk's that can do that unless they are extremely well made. 0 accuracy? Exagerate much?I ADK'd my proton and added a 33% damage pup, it has 350 base dps and a max damage of 1011. While an elite or E11 can out damage this id like to see how much one of those cost plus how many pre-cu kryat tissues it would take compared to a free rifle with elemental dmg.
0 accuracy Bonus.. read the stats much?
33% damage PwP? LOL how's your speed doing? That may be why you find that level of SAC adequate.
It's not the best gun, period. I made 50 of the following, pre CU stocks, No tissues etc, common crate run weapons that I sell for for far less than what protons sell for.
Elites, Stats Withs Powerups
21% Damage No penalty..............20% Speed no Penalty
559-1013...........................462-916
17 accu bonus......................17 accu bonus
base 343 dps.......................Base 376.87 DPS
76 SAC.............................76 SAC
The damage powered up version is very close to the performance of your Proton, and with +17 accu bonus and far less SAC. Consider these are bulk run Elites, and not "special" guns also.Message Edited by Lycantha on 06-28-2005 03:55 PM
A 33% Damage PUP is no joke for a fully stacked ranged fighter.
I used to be M.Marksman / M.Carbineer / M.Rifleman / Pistoleer 3404. I had good speed and alot of accuracy.
With a fully stacked ranged fighter, the speed penalty presented by Damage PUPs is neglegible. I notice no drop in speed, but I definitely hit harder.
The Proton Carbine is still comparable to even well crafted E11s and Elites. It has Elemental Damage, which is a fixed value. It is also an easy quest reward to get. Compare that to how many credits a top of the line E11 Mk.II or Elite Carbine would cost? Also, keep in mind this: Resources fluctuate over time and server to server. The quality of weapons changes with this as well as the cost.
I'm not saying that the Proton Carbine is the best Carbine, but it is not a weapon to be ignored. I used mine when I had a MBH-based template almost all the time. I sure as hell was in no mood at the time to fork over more than 1 million for a great Carbine.
Message Edited by Warmaker01 on 06-28-2005 11:43 PM
Ezekial Calhoun
Adval wrote:
Ostaka wrote:
what are the stats of a hard capped elite or MKII carbine?
If you mean the damage cap, I think it's 1065 on both.
when does these hard caps apply? My E11 is 1082 max dmg... (no pup)
jetman49 wrote:
Well first off, about the lego dancing video thing, it some band called O-zone from Europe. just to clear things up
Zarqon wrote:
when does these hard caps apply? My E11 is 1082 max dmg... (no pup)
Well that was all based on what I've read from here, soI don't know about that.