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Thread: Carbineer without BH Carbines

AaBeck
Sat Aug 21, 2004 1:24 am
#14






Bennyboy4308 wrote:

Personally, if you're good and have the right stuff, Carbineer w/o BH is better. You could invest in capping ranged/melee defense like TAFirehawk who has the best template IMO. Wildshot + Fullauto is nearly as good as confusion/sprayshot.I love BH for other reasons though. I love hunting jedi and I love having options. I'm certified for so many weapons its nuts. I'm offensivly as powerful as a Master Carbineer and probably more effective with pistols than a master pistoleer w/o BH, offensivly of course.







Its hard to tell what the best Template is.... Diffrent Opinions and Diffrent Styles of playing and out come of all that.


I've spend over 50mil on Carbineer.




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AaBeck
Sat Aug 21, 2004 5:38 am
#15






Otegu123 wrote:
carbineer without bh can be effective so long as you have + 25 speed attachments and other attachments. It takes millions of credits to be viable pure carbineer and you'll still lose to a rifleman that knows how to pvp (meaning 80-90% comp with stun layer + 50-60% PSG + 45% synsteak, spamming headshot 3) while your doing 8-15 random dps to them, they're doing 100 or so mind damage to you . against certain profs though its great





you both can be running around with 8-15 over your head.... all ways are people saying... that they cant do any thing against 80-90% comp and PSG and Synsteak we can do the exact same thing...

Message Edited by AaBeck on 08-21-2004 02:39 PM



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Otegu123
Sat Aug 21, 2004 8:25 am
#16

not against rifleman we cant..no one can. They have far more powerful weapons than all the other profs..a krayt jawa or dxr6b will always do above 50dps, prolly more like 100 or so if its decent, and thats mind damage. whereas a krayt carbine will still only do 20 damage or so against v.good armour






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Otegu123
Sat Aug 21, 2004 5:48 pm
#17

my 680 damage laser carbine does considerably less damage than my run-of-the-mill well made/decent sliced 720 damage T21 ( both puped). also a nice 400-500 damage jawa does well over 5x my carbines damage. sure you can get carbines that are more powerful than rifles..but carbines made with the same tissues as a jawa or dxr6b, the rifles will win hands down






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TAfirehawk
Sat Aug 21, 2004 9:08 pm
#18






Otegu123 wrote:
my 680 damage laser carbine does considerably less damage than my run-of-the-mill well made/decent sliced 720 damage T21 ( both puped). also a nice 400-500 damage jawa does well over 5x my carbines damage. sure you can get carbines that are more powerful than rifles..but carbines made with the same tissues as a jawa or dxr6b, the rifles will win hands down






Yes the key is comparing apples to apples......just like picking a DXR6 vs. a Laser......


Quite frankly a Carbineer in almost ANY form with ANY armor/weapons/buffs must pick on a weaker opponent to win. An equally prepared Rifleman will ALWAYS beat an equally prepared Carbineer....PERIOD.





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AaBeck
Sun Aug 22, 2004 12:32 am
#19

Depending on Stats My Carbine is a700 Max Damage Laser Carbine i can do more Damage then Most Riflemen



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AaBeck
Sun Aug 22, 2004 3:16 am
#20






TAfirehawk wrote:





Otegu123 wrote:
my 680 damage laser carbine does considerably less damage than my run-of-the-mill well made/decent sliced 720 damage T21 ( both puped). also a nice 400-500 damage jawa does well over 5x my carbines damage. sure you can get carbines that are more powerful than rifles..but carbines made with the same tissues as a jawa or dxr6b, the rifles will win hands down






Yes the key is comparing apples to apples......just like picking a DXR6 vs. a Laser......


Quite frankly a Carbineer in almost ANY form with ANY armor/weapons/buffs must pick on a weaker opponent to win. An equally prepared Rifleman will ALWAYS beat an equally prepared Carbineer....PERIOD.







Not True i dunno where the hell you come with this statement TAfirehawk you forget the most importand thing here.Rifleman Dabble in what? The only Dabble Rifleman i got problems with is Rifle Dabble in Doctor.


So stop with the Period **edit**we all play on diffrent Servers and Dunno each other.





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Otegu123
Sun Aug 22, 2004 4:09 am
#21

rifleman can dabble in anything they want..if they're m.rifleman/Mdoc then there is absolutely zero chance of a carbineer killing them, so long as the doc knows what hes doing (unless of course you have uber dot carbines). A carbineer's dps is far, far less than that of a rifleman. While your doing 10-20 damage to him..he'll be doing at least 50-100 mind damage to you (thats with 45% synsteak and 50-60% PSG). Rifleman have a dps far greater than any other prof






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TAfirehawk
Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:49 am
#22






AaBeck wrote:


Not True i dunno where the hell you come with this statement TAfirehawk you forget the most importand thing here.Rifleman Dabble in what? The only Dabble Rifleman i got problems with is Rifle Dabble in Doctor.


So stop with the Period **edit**we all play on diffrent Servers and Dunno each other.








You must be playing on the biggest pu$$y server in all of SWG.....or they are all 5 year olds playing Rifleman.....


A Speed Capped T21 with equally prepared setups leaves 0% chance of a Carbineer in ANY template beating a Rifleman in ANY template......and I have laughed at a BH/Carbineer who Dizzy/KD me and still couldn't do enough damage to get thru my buffs/food/armor.....so KD won't help beat an EQUALLY PREPARED Rifleman.


Hell and equally prepared IMAGE DESIGNER can last forever in PvP except for when a DoT or Jedi comes along.....PERIOD.


Message Edited by TAfirehawk on 08-22-2004 11:49 AM



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showmercy
Sun Aug 22, 2004 3:31 pm
#23

Dizzy, posture down, problem solved. And if you are comparing firing a carbine without specials to a rifle with specials then yea of course you'll lose. Just have your wits about you, a knockdown isn't the only way to get them flopping you know. Also, never forget the blue milk. It comes in handy when you need a mind pool regeneration and it's devestating to the morale of your opponent.



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TAfirehawk
Sun Aug 22, 2004 5:06 pm
#24






showmercy wrote:

Dizzy, posture down, problem solved. And if you are comparing firing a carbine without specials to a rifle with specials then yea of course you'll lose. Just have your wits about you, a knockdown isn't the only way to get them flopping you know. Also, never forget the blue milk. It comes in handy when you need a mind pool regeneration and it's devestating to the morale of your opponent.







The smart Rifleman.....yes I know those two words don't belong together.....picks up Fencer just like I have with Carbineer.....PD defense is more than enough to STOP ActionShot and Suppression Fire.


The way you beat a Rifleman happens soley on the Rifleman....not being "smart"





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Bennyboy4308
Sun Aug 22, 2004 6:11 pm
#25

Iebas, most riflemen I encounter are stupid. They'll use jawa with HS3 always. Even with PSG, Stun helm, and steak, doing almost neglible damage, they won't change to T21 or use strafeshot2 (which is killer btw). There's only one rifleman that has ever used Dizzy/PDon me. Well maybe all the smart riflemen are Imp so thats why I've been beating riflemen on our server.



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TAfirehawk
Mon Aug 23, 2004 6:17 am
#26






Bennyboy4308 wrote:

Iebas, most riflemen I encounter are stupid. They'll use jawa with HS3 always. Even with PSG, Stun helm, and steak, doing almost neglible damage, they won't change to T21 or use strafeshot2 (which is killer btw). There's only one rifleman that has ever used Dizzy/PDon me. Well maybe all the smart riflemen are Imp so thats why I've been beating riflemen on our server.







OUCH.....


Imagine if us "smart" Carbineers switched to Rifleman.....WOW.....





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