Carbineer Archive

Im BH 3434/carbineer 4004 and soon to go to master carbineer BH 3400. The new patch is introducing a lower HAM special cost for carbineers. It will be great. I was going master BH, but there is really no point in it, besides the title. Which I always where the mercenary title anyways.

Mercenary for hire

Where did you hear that?

DO IT!!!..Be sure to have fishak muon and novice medic..When used correctly you are the shizznit..I drop people left and right..AND..I have a lil secret gun that pelts out 102 min damage and 432 max damage.and only eats 26/27/14..I'm not saying how or which carbine it is..and the accuracy mod and accuracy while moving mod with BH makes a big difference..master carbineer and go up 0/3/0/0 on bounty hunter..I LOVE IT!!

I've taken a similar but slightly different approach, MBH with 0/4/0/3 Carbineer. With my added skill attachments I have +100speed and +199 accuracy.

The most important thing is this gives me the Sprayshot + Chargeshot1 combo. Sprayshot deals better damage than Burstshot1 and applies dizzy, blind and stun effects! Combo'd with Chargeshot1 (which hits 99% of the time) people and creatures flop around like fish while I destroy them.

Just taking the Carbine Specialization line won't give you Sprayshot, but Confusion Shot and FireKD both inflict dizzy very consistantly. Don't count on FireKD to actually KD your target, even with my modifiers I only get a KD from FireKD @ 10% of the time. To put it another way: I'm surprised when FireKD knock someone down, I'm surprised when Chargeshot1 doesn't knock someone down.

The biggest problem with either template is that you have to always be stat buffed in order to do almost anything. Neutrons and Muons (+Fishak surprise) help, but nothing beats the buff.

Good luck, let us know how the Carbineer + Carbine Specialization line works for you.

For clarification, I'm almost to master carbine and will soon drop MCH to go BH. I'll be using the template mainly for jedi hunting.

Well if you didn't know already Defenses WILL NOT STACK after next patch, that includes KD/Dizzy/Ranged/Melee/Dodge/etc... So guess what, those fencer/pistol/tka combo's are only effective for a week or two more then its open season.

I agree with the other guy, where did you find that out? I had heard that block/counter/dodge no longer stack between professions, but have heard nothing about Def. Against ***** or ranged/melee.

"That template can't take out master fencer/pistoleer/tka. Virtually immune to knockdown and so much range defense plus range/melee mitigation that it's out of the arse."

Wrong.

At the moment.. Chargeshot1 will ALWAYS work. not matter what

KD defense are USELESS against it, IT WILL KD. find a carbineer friend, test it. he/she will KD you every single time he hits with chargeshot1, the only way chargeshot will NOT kd is if it MISSES. and with 190 accuracy missing hardly ever happens. pistoleer/fencer/tka combo has a max of 140 ranged defense (its around 120ish if i recall correctly) fencer/rifle/tka has around 180. and bh/carbineer = 190 accuracy.. we will still hit nearly everytime.

chargeshot1 combined with confusion shot and followed by crippling shot is VERY VERY effective in pvp. as long as you're not caught by surprise and you get the first shot, chances are you cannot lose.

I have both a master pistoleer/master fencer with 4004 tka and the rest in smuggler, and a bh/carbineer.. I like the bh/carbineer MUCH better.

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"That template can't take out master fencer/pistoleer/tka. Virtually immune to knockdown and so much range defense plus range/melee mitigation that it's out of the arse."

Wrong.

At the moment.. Chargeshot1 will ALWAYS work. not matter what

KD defense are USELESS against it, IT WILL KD. find a carbineer friend, test it. he/she will KD you every single time he hits with chargeshot1, the only way chargeshot will NOT kd is if it MISSES. and with 190 accuracy missing hardly ever happens. pistoleer/fencer/tka combo has a max of 140 ranged defense (its around 120ish if i recall correctly) fencer/rifle/tka has around 180. and bh/carbineer = 190 accuracy.. we will still hit nearly everytime.

chargeshot1 combined with confusion shot and followed by crippling shot is VERY VERY effective in pvp. as long as you're not caught by surprise and you get the first shot, chances are you cannot lose.

I have both a master pistoleer/master fencer with 4004 tka and the rest in smuggler, and a bh/carbineer.. I like the bh/carbineer MUCH better.

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also, scattershot cuts through counterattack/dodge/block mods

i used to be MBH/0403 carbineer and that was very good itself, but i decided to go master carbineer, 3400 BH instead, and im currently 3444 carbineer, master by end of night, and i already took part in 2 raids and im doing much better, mostly because of the counterattack so its a tad harder to hit me cause now i actually have defense, and im very fast too, this template is rocking

What he said ^^

This template rocks.

It's the best template if you like this weapon, As everyone has said.

I was a MBH and now i'm a Master Carbineer....Carbine has always been my favorite weapon....the only shot I really miss from MBH is Scatter shot...man what an awesome shot that is....actually I think after Mastering BH..the only shots I really used were Scatter, FireKD, and Torso.....i'd love it if Master Carbineer had a Dizzy shot of some sort...but all and all MBH just isn't worth the skill points involved...its incredibly gimped compared to the possible combinations out there for the same skill points....but throwing the BH carbine line with Carbineer does rock...as I slowly went down in BH..is when I was going up in carbineer and having both was very nice...luckly I had 900,000 Carbine XP banked from MBH...the first things I went for in carbine were Cripple and Charge....and after Mastering Carbineer really the only specials I use are Cripple, Charge, Burst, and some other shot i'm forgetting at the moment...lol

I wanted to make a correction..when I said "the only shot I really miss from MBH is Scatter shot" what I meant was "Spray Shot"....hehe man i'm losing my mind...