Carbineer Archive

Thread: 19 answers delayed

jfang
Tue Jun 22, 2004 2:28 pm
#1

Last week's 19 answers has been delayed another week. The official line is viewable at:




Given that it will be another week, and that the carbineer question (accuracy vs accuracy while moving) is redundant with the pistoleer one, I think we should ask a different question of TH. In particular, I think we should change the question to:


"So, Thunderheart, what can you tell us about Firehawk?"


(And yes, I'm being serious about that...TH already knows we are interested in Accuracy vs AWM, and will answer is in the pistoleer's question, so why not? It will be fun if nothing else... )


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SWBarker12
Tue Jun 22, 2004 11:42 pm
#2

They're all busy making Jedi 1 man armies.




Nerf Jedi

Player Character Jedi=The Downfall of SWG

**Edited by Jeassa on 06-22-04**

novamarine
Wed Jun 23, 2004 6:42 am
#3

The Devs are incredibly busy with the Jedi. They want to get this right.
TAfirehawk
Wed Jun 23, 2004 7:40 am
#4






novamarine wrote:

The Devs are incredibly busy with the Jedi. They want to get this right.






Wow, Nova you are being quite the jokester lately.....





Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

jfang
Wed Jun 23, 2004 7:56 am
#5






TAfirehawk wrote:





novamarine wrote:

The Devs are incredibly busy with the Jedi. They want to get this right.






Wow, Nova you are being quite the jokester lately.....








No, no, TAfirehawk. Novamarine was being very serious. the devs do *want* to get it right...


I don't get it though. Jedi are getting 2 publishes worth of attention.Yet it seems like there will be relatively few of them. Furthermore,most of the vocal people think jedi are an awful addition which ruins the game and should flat out be removed (hmm, where have I heard that before... ), which further makes this special attention they are getting strange.


I guess the quest for jedi passes for high endcontent...


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TAfirehawk
Wed Jun 23, 2004 7:57 am
#6

I think the Accountants are looking at the bottom line and saying push Jedi or you are fired.....





Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

jfang
Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:00 am
#7




Actually, now that I am thinking of high end content, wouldn't it be great if you could personalize a weapon as high end content? What I mean is you take an existing carbine (so the crafters still have a market), use it at least once per time you log in for a month, then bring it to some NPC (doing a few quests along the way) to get it personalized to you. It might get a special label, and you get 5% speed and 10% damage boost (for example) to represent it being your prefered gun, and maybe an extra 500 max condition (to represent the extra care you give it), and be untradable (since it is *your* gun).


You might only get one such gun at a time. The trick would be to make it non-grindable (hence the one month timer, rather than "kill 1500 enemies")...The ideaneeds work, but I think it would be a good idea.



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Message Edited by jfang on 06-23-2004 11:01 AM

Brilyn
Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:52 am
#8

As a Master WS, I think the idea has merit.


I dunno if I'd be totally in favour of damage boosts, and considering that the Devs will be taking an axe to damage across the system, I don't think they would either.




Now, *visual* customisations would be sweet.



Brilyn
Master Weaponsmith
Master Shipwright
Main vendor on Naboo, Vagabond's Rest: -1850, 2330
Secondary vendor on Talus, Kyu'mai: 250, -4680
Starsider
jfang
Wed Jun 23, 2004 9:02 am
#9






Brilyn wrote:

As a Master WS, I think the idea has merit.


I dunno if I'd be totally in favour of damage boosts, and considering that the Devs will be taking an axe to damage across the system, I don't think they would either.




Now, *visual* customisations would be sweet.







Oh, wow. I like that. It has no "real" effect on anything so won't break anything, but very much has a "that's REALLY cool" factor (above and beyond the unsorted badges list). And I can imagine people running a set of interesting quests, possibly like the Nym'sSlugthrower one ("retrieve paint", "get special tool", "find and rescue thepainter", etc.) Again though, it shouldn't be grindable as it stands now, as then it will become a chore to do rather than something neat you can do.


Off-hand I think a "you need to use the gun for a month to really become really attached to it" kind of thing prevents excessive grinding (if you can only do one at a time), and makes the guns more special. There are drawbacks to this mind you (after a month your gun will be at 100/150 condition)...


It would be great to have a green DXR carbine though, to match the green acid bolts it fires, and possibly green armor too.


It might be a de facto nerf on the Firehawk though, in that it's not the only red carbine then.


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TAfirehawk
Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:03 pm
#10






atimes wrote:

Will everyone get off this tired "Oh the devs luv the Jedi more than anyone else" song.


Point blank after publish 10 hologrinding will be dead. That's what these publishes are about. Publish 9 introduces FS quests and publish 10 kills hologrinding. Hologrinding will kill this game more than anything if it's not dealt with.


If that doesn't make you happy then nothing will.


You will never see another "how do I master this prof fast plz" thread again.


Every Carbineer you see will be someone who actually wants to be one.


You may actually get healed in the med center again. It's been so long since that's happened for me I honestly can't remember the last time I actually got healing in the med center and I'm being serious.


You may actually visit a cantina again and not be bombarded with 50,000 lag inducing AFK "action heal plz" dancers.






Ummmm....pardon me but there are no FS Quests in Publish 9....minor point of clarification...


And the statements on THIS FORUM revolve around the Devs not fixing something for us for 12 months but doing it for the Jedi in mere days. I think your message would be better placed on some other forums, not Carbineer....





Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

Brilyn
Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:06 pm
#11

atimes, that's certainly won't be the case.


For a lot of people, the Master of the profession is the only point of doing the profession in the first place.


These people are known as 'goal-orientated' in their world (and, well, I won't go into my opinion of sale.... I mean 'those' people ).


There will always be people who see a game as something to 'win' and to 'complete'. The Hologrind just emphasised that proportion of the population beyond all reasoning.



Brilyn
Master Weaponsmith
Master Shipwright
Main vendor on Naboo, Vagabond's Rest: -1850, 2330
Secondary vendor on Talus, Kyu'mai: 250, -4680
Starsider
atimes
Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:44 pm
#12


I give up.


Icome here because I'm a carbineer dabbler and I wanted a break from the people whining for the sake of whining. I see now that this is not the place either.


"We've been complaining about counterattack for months but the devs fixed it for the Jedi" blah blah blah blah


Different forum, same old tired whine.


later.


You guys are like Dory from Finding Nemo in that you suffer from short term memory loss


Help me out here. . .which patch fixed all the carbineer specials again (well except legshot)?


Also someone post that link to your top five where the devs agree carbineers need more speed and will address this issue (and HAM costs) in the combat balance. My memory is failing me as well

Message Edited by atimes on 06-24-2004 04:45 PM

Bennyboy4308
Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:00 pm
#13






atimes wrote:



"We've been complaining about counterattack for months but the devs fixed it for the Jedi" blah blah blah blah


Different forum, same old tired whine.


later.





That whine right there is about as much whining that goes on in this forum. In fact if you look around almost all the posts are about strategys and guns and how to make this profession work. You want to see real whining? Go to the pistoleer forums.



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