Carbineer Archive

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1)for PvP the best carbine is a DH17 carbine. speed or damage sliced. fight wityh full aouto single2 to blind and stun. then swich to a damage powerd up laser carbine and kill em with criiple shot and charge shots.

DH17 is useless in PvP if the person is wearing any armor. A poor quality composite armor is Ar1 with 50% energy. Thats a 50% reduction for being AR1 and then an addition 50% (so the damage is reduced by 75%). Thus, after the 75% reduction for being in PvP, the target's armor will reduce itanother 75%.

And this is not even considering range damage mitigation 3....

I keep my Krayt DH17 short carbine on hand for PvP in groups where I mainly use KD and that seems to be pretty effective. Although I would never call it the best in any PvP situation.

I believe the DXR6 is the best all around choice for PvP.

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novamarine wrote:

DH17 is useless in PvP if the person is wearing any armor.

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Not true at all. Use their fast speed to quickly apply stun/blind/dizzy and KD. Then pull out the laser.

On my server the PvP is far too competitive to be able to sacrifice damage for states. You need to be hitting fast and hard right from the beginning or you are going to lose. PvP is really a race to do the most damage. Applying states at the cost of damage is largely a defensive maneuver as they will, once applied, decrease the ability of the opponenet to go toe-to-toe with you. However, if you are takingdamage while attempting to apply these states you are digging yourself into a hole you need to get out of later. It would be FAR better to get a very fast elite carbine or DXR6 and use that to apply states. Use a speed sliced and speed powered elite if you need to.

we can dizzy? hmmm

DH-17 sucks, go with a speedsliced DXR6 or Elite.

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novamarine wrote:
On my server the PvP is far too competitive to be able to sacrifice damage for states. You need to be hitting fast and hard right from the beginning or you are going to lose. PvP is really a race to do the most damage. Applying states at the cost of damage is largely a defensive maneuver as they will, once applied, decrease the ability of the opponenet to go toe-to-toe with you. However, if you are takingdamage while attempting to apply these states you are digging yourself into a hole you need to get out of later. It would be FAR better to get a very fast elite carbine or DXR6 and use that to apply states. Use a speed sliced and speed powered elite if you need to.

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agreed.. with the sole exception of Knockdown. any other state isn't worth sacrificing damage for. pvp between experienced players is all about damage on target in as little time as possible. If you can't kill your target in 6 secs or less, you don't belong in pvp.

when i was a bh, i always got a kick out of the people who advocated taking novice pistoleer for hs2. their reasoning was "in pvp, i start with torso shot, bleeding shot, hs2, and hs1. that stacks 4 bleeds on him. then, i do eyeshot for blind..."

umm... dude. you could've killed him by now. get a grip.

""""Not true at all. Use their fast speed to quickly apply stun/blind and KD. Then pull out the laser.""""

yep. and BLIND RRULES!!! ive won several dozens of duels by kd, then blinding them with a full aouto single2 barage!!!!

lol. i know what im saying. ive been in this game since pets were an amazing rarity!!!!

s in the first week of valcyn,or the second. to long ago to remember.

I always find that, unless the enemy has a high heat resist, you can't go wrong with an EE3. Most people disagree with me on this though..

um, i know what i'm saying too. i've been in the game since day 1, and i've never EVER considered doing anything but carbineer.

nova knows what he's saying as well. let me direct your attention to the Carbineer Correspondant tag next to his name...

I can shoot almost as fast with a speed sliced/powered up elite carbine, which is AP1 and therefore MUCH better in PvP.

in PvP considering on my server most poeple have sets of 80% heat composite (to combat those commandos and their **edit** flamers) an EE3 will get you killed in PvP (altho my bud has a really sweet krayt one)

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novamarine wrote:
On my server the PvP is far too competitive to be able to sacrifice damage for states. You need to be hitting fast and hard right from the beginning or you are going to lose. PvP is really a race to do the most damage. Applying states at the cost of damage is largely a defensive maneuver as they will, once applied, decrease the ability of the opponenet to go toe-to-toe with you. However, if you are takingdamage while attempting to apply these states you are digging yourself into a hole you need to get out of later. It would be FAR better to get a very fast elite carbine or DXR6 and use that to apply states. Use a speed sliced and speed powered elite if you need to.

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ordinarily i like the DH17 snub but nova makes a good point, while its great for keeping someone on the ground there is always someone else that is going to plant a nice high damage shot right between your eyes as soon as they see that youre a carbineer spamming your specials. im a master carb/master doc and thatis the equivilant of a big purple neon sign on my head that says 'kill me before i KD again!'

youre much better off with a good, fast elite or an e11 (1 krayt tissue, an +ideal range scope and a speed slice will turn this normally crappy, innacurate weapon into a nice, reliable pvp weapon). the dxr6 or nyms is also a good choice with its AP1 and acid damagebut both are very slow.a good speed slice and some krayt tissue howeverwould make the dx a great pvp weapon andnow that i have enough tissues for a krayt dx all i need is alucky speed slice and i will be testing this theory

the laser carbine is simply not viable in pvp anymore. damage mitigation 3 negates any benefit derived from the AP2, the crappiestcomposite armor has at least 50% energy resistance and laser carbs are inherently slow. thats 3 strikes for the laser carb in pvp.

so you know, I know what im talking about for goodnesssakes!!!!! ive learned carbineer inside and out!

also my DH17 is 1.2 speed sliced and speed powerup. it dosent get much faster then this.