Carbineer Archive

It would be alot better than it currently is and would be nowhere near overpowering.

I would like to see AP2 for the Elite and perhaps AP1 for the EE3 to give it some use. Would give us the choice of another gun in pvp aswell.

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La-grange wrote:
Putting medium ap on the elite would be like handing the carbine community an e-11 rifle. But it would be a start to improving our "elite" weapon.

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T21 would still be way more effective.

But yes it should be medium AP, it's our elite weapon and we have a lower tier cert that is medium.

Only thing better with the elite now is the min dmg and the dxr6 still has higher min dmg.

Well, in that case... think maybe this should be issue #5 for Carbineers? Specifically, make the Elite carbine Medium AP?

nova already has "carbines selection" as a top 5 issue...the elite is one of our nicer weapons since mitigation was put in, the best for PVP against mitigation.

i think if he presses for a master carbineer box weapon, expecting a 25% boost to an existing quality weapon is a bit much...

tho a 25% boost to our dps in PVP will do nothing to overcome armor/buffs. sad, huh?

~pentjak

Putting medium ap on the elite would be like handing the carbine community an e-11 rifle. But it would be a start to improving our "elite" weapon.

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sk8boarda22 wrote:

Simple question, would you be ok with us in PvP if the Elite carbine was medium AP? Personally I think this fix would help our damage a ton, and combined with some sort of fix to armor, we'll finally have a Carbineer weapon equivalent to the T-21 in terms of effectiveness.

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carbines arent about ap... thats rifles... carbines are supposed to be about slapping status affects down on the enemy (currently undoable)

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BMGundam wrote:

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La-grange wrote:
Putting medium ap on the elite would be like handing the carbine community an e-11 rifle. But it would be a start to improving our "elite" weapon.

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The sad thing is, the E11 rifle would still have better min/max damage stats than the elite carbine.

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I agree. Wanna know something else that is sad. I have a stocked and scoped (ok several) e-11 carbines and they outdo the rifle in damage before AP. They also out do the elite in damage and speed.

Now that I have succumbed to the dark side...er..umm...FOTM and have started to get into the rifleman tree. I have noticed that carbines are compairable to most rifles in damage. As a matter of fact I can throw out more damage with my laser carbine than I can with my laser rifle. The only thing that makes rifleman special is their ability to target one stat. Unfortunately for the rest of us it can't be healed like the stat we target. Rifleman is centered around popping people in the head. Carbineer is centered around nothing. We are supposed to be the marines. Send us in to get the job done you know. We have the most posture changes and AoE's in the ranged world and yet we don't use them as effectively as we could. One person spamming burst shot 2 isn't going to do alot of damage to a group. Get 20 people spamming burst shot 2 and you have instant wall o' plasma. Personally if anything below a t-21 or jawa ion rifle could penetrate buffs, armor, migitation, food, spices, and a PSG then carbineer wouldn't be looked at the same.

Id be happy if it had ap 2 and a 15% damage increase to make it stand out. Or give it an odd damage....Ap 2 Electric damage and same stats. We need an all new stun gun so any other damage than energy....Cold maby? Would be nice to have a blast weapon also. Or the cert for the C22's. We as the infantry should be able to use Grenades effectively. Not like a commando by any means but sompthing with a bit of punch...C22's would give us a decent way to inflict blast damage with aoe.

But all carbineers aren't infantry. Most soldiers use carbines, but not everyone that uses a carbine is a soldier