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Thread: how ironic...

fletcherreed
Thu Nov 06, 2003 8:36 pm
#1

This is common knowledge but its fun to say anyway. Bounty Hunters and smugglers are both better at pistols than pistoleers are. Plus they get other things also like a nasty LLC damage and the other can slice weapons and craft spices.
Philosopher1976
Thu Nov 06, 2003 8:42 pm
#2

That's true -- all of the useful pistol specials and certifications are in other professions, which means that those folks just dabble in Pistoleer for the speed and accuracy modifiers. When someone gets killed by a Bounty Hunter or Smuggler, they assume that "Pistoleer" is overpowered when in reality our entire tree is full of broken/useless specials and skills.


I've tried to highlight this issue in the State of the Profession Report.






Samra Hael
Master Pistoleer • Expert Bounty Hunter
KOTOR • Scylla


SanTsu
Thu Nov 06, 2003 8:43 pm
#3

Smugglers arnt accually better at the pistol then the pistoleer. Yes we have 3 great specials but we have no mods what so ever. Every smuggler know that for our specials to be usefull we need to take pistoleer.



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Johny Longshoot
Master Smuggler/ Master Gunfighter/ Teras Kasi Master
Who needs hokey religions and ancient weapons just give me something to smuggle.
Dyriel
Thu Nov 06, 2003 8:50 pm
#4

Since you are completely right SanTsu, right now it is easy for a Smuggler to get mods he needs. Add to this the Low Blow move that is very efficient (ranged KD still ?).

We have no ranged KD, not state effect (beside PMD1) and pathetic aimed pool attack.

I don't think Smugglers are better Pistol users but I really think they have much in one line than the whole pistoleer at mastery, beside the speed and accuracy.
SanTsu
Thu Nov 06, 2003 8:52 pm
#5

Hey Im working on MasterSmuggler / MasterPistoleer / Master TKA


Believe me I want to see pistoleer fixed up as much as the next guy.




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The First Smuggler Correspondent (retired)
Johny Longshoot
Master Smuggler/ Master Gunfighter/ Teras Kasi Master
Who needs hokey religions and ancient weapons just give me something to smuggle.
Dyriel
Thu Nov 06, 2003 9:06 pm
#6

he he

btw, I don't have any problem with dabblers anymore, I just became one. Was hard to chose between smuggler and BH, I prefer BH because it was my choice before I play the game.
Logitition
Thu Nov 06, 2003 9:13 pm
#7

Those 3 to master are impossible. TKA and M.Pistoleer comes to 186 pts.... for the smuggler u have to masterMarksman and go 4 in brawler... plus fill the smuggler to master..


U would only ever get 3 boxes of smuggler.




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SanTsu
Thu Nov 06, 2003 9:18 pm
#8

Sorry but it is possible to master all three.


Smuggler needs pistol specialist and unarmed 4.




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The First Smuggler Correspondent (retired)
Johny Longshoot
Master Smuggler/ Master Gunfighter/ Teras Kasi Master
Who needs hokey religions and ancient weapons just give me something to smuggle.
Logitition
Thu Nov 06, 2003 9:25 pm
#9

I stand corrected.... I took the smuggler after commando and was confused... this is good to know.....


Nice template u got there... just hope the nerf monkeys do not persist with that 'TKA resists should not work if u have a ranged weapon equipped' crap...





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itcantstop
Thu Nov 06, 2003 10:00 pm
#10

yes we get better stats but lack the extra skill points to become a well rounded character




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LevaOripa
Fri Nov 07, 2003 8:38 am
#11

The biggest help to pistoleers will be to move our accuracy anddefenses around to random and high tier boxes or make us a anti dabber profession because dabbing makes other professions too deadly and a laffing stock out of so called MASTERS of any profession.


Pistoleer Masters are just the funniest LAFFING stock hahahaha


Well it make's me giggle anyways


Leva Oripa


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Tanks
Fri Nov 07, 2003 10:01 am
#12

LevaOripa said:


"The biggest help to pistoleers will be to move our accuracy anddefenses around to random and high tier boxes or make us a anti dabber profession because dabbing makes other professions too deadly and a laffing stock out of so called MASTERS of any profession."


Actually no, because most that dabble in other combinations are MASTER pistoleers anyway, so you'd endup hurting your novices as they would have a hard time grinding up to the high boxes if low level boxes had nothing to offer.


Master Pistoleer/Expert BH - like your correspondant


Master Pistoleer/Smuggler Dirty Figthting/Tera Kasi


Master Pistoleer/Smuggler Dirty fighting/Commando


are the most common Master Pistoleer PvP combinations.


I also dabble in Pistoleer, but it is for PvE purposes more then PvP (HS2 & Stopping shot).






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Philosopher1976
Fri Nov 07, 2003 11:44 am
#13






Tanks wrote:

Actually no, because most that dabble in other combinations are MASTER pistoleers anyway, so you'd endup hurting your novices as they would have a hard time grinding up to the high boxes if low level boxes had nothing to offer.


I also dabble in Pistoleer, but it is for PvE purposes more then PvP (HS2 & Stopping shot).






Actually, it's not true that most dabblers are Master Pistoleers. If I was doing the "smart" thing, I would have dropped everything in our tree except for Stances 2, long ago. I'd still keep all of the specials that I actually use, plus I'd have the points left over to get the Dirty Fighting line and some Medic skills. I'm keeping Master Pistoleer out of dedication to the profession -- it sure isn't because of any tangible benefit, that's for sure.


Right now the Pistoleer profession simply doesn't WORK on its own -- the specials are broken, the weapon is broken, the defenses are broken, etc. The only thing our profession is good for is as a supplement for Bounty Hunters and Smugglers who want our Accuracy and Speed modifiers or want to dabble at the bottom of our tree to get our two working specials.







Samra Hael
Master Pistoleer • Expert Bounty Hunter
KOTOR • Scylla


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