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Thread: BH/Carbineer [Discussion]
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orange5
Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:40 am
#1
Achyutathewook wrote:
I know this has been asked a million times... but I would like more input.
I am a Master BH/Master Carbineer. I use Sprayshot and Confusionshot for my main attacks and use KnockdownFire and Actionshot1 for my posture changes. My accuracy is +209 and my speed is capped.
I have no problems soloing Jedi that are not MLS or even have the last box in any of the sabers. I want to be more effective. Yet it seems that the sprayshot shoots too slow and my shot selection isnt working that way I had hoped. Can any of you MBH/MCarbs tell me what you do and how successful you have been?
I would use chargeshot1 instead of fire kd, and I almost never get a posture change from actionshot2(at least in pvp), just the auto bleed...So instead of kd fire or actionshots I would just spam chargeshot if you are going for the posture change....I would go with fullauto single to lay down states..or combine it with confsuinon shot....I dont have spray shot so I cant comment there...but three or four fullauto's and your target should have some states effecting him
imo
edit: btw I think Firekdis a garbage special
Message Edited by orange5 on 02-22-2005 09:42 AM
AaBeck
Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:42 am
#2
Achyutathewook wrote:
I know this has been asked a million times... but I would like more input.
I am a Master BH/Master Carbineer. I use Sprayshot and Confusionshot for my main attacks and use KnockdownFire and Actionshot1 for my posture changes. My accuracy is +209 and my speed is capped.
I have no problems soloing Jedi that are not MLS or even have the last box in any of the sabers. I want to be more effective. Yet it seems that the sprayshot shoots too slow and my shot selection isnt working that way I had hoped. Can any of you MBH/MCarbs tell me what you do and how successful you have been?
Get all 3 Status on him befor whiching to Crippling Shot, when thats done you can take out any thing... Knights thou you will need a Squard Leader in order to take on MLS Jedis but it can be done.
you can but 600 Damage carbs from me if you dont have any high damage
Achyutathewook
Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:14 pm
#3
I know this has been asked a million times... but I would like more input.
I am a Master BH/Master Carbineer. I use Sprayshot and Confusionshot for my main attacks and use KnockdownFire and Actionshot1 for my posture changes. My accuracy is +209 and my speed is capped.
I have no problems soloing Jedi that are not MLS or even have the last box in any of the sabers. I want to be more effective. Yet it seems that the sprayshot shoots too slow and my shot selection isnt working that way I had hoped. Can any of you MBH/MCarbs tell me what you do and how successful you have been?
MrChow_Sai
Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:19 pm
#4
hmm...
You really don't need master carbine if you just use those attacks. Actionshot2 is that same as actionshot1 just better.
Crippling Shot as the best Dmg mod. I dunno i haven't done Master BH so i can't say much.
You really don't need master carbine if you just use those attacks. Actionshot2 is that same as actionshot1 just better.
Crippling Shot as the best Dmg mod. I dunno i haven't done Master BH so i can't say much.
MrChow_Sai
Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:13 pm
#5
orange5 wrote:
Achyutathewook wrote:
I know this has been asked a million times... but I would like more input.
I am a Master BH/Master Carbineer. I use Sprayshot and Confusionshot for my main attacks and use KnockdownFire and Actionshot1 for my posture changes. My accuracy is +209 and my speed is capped.
I have no problems soloing Jedi that are not MLS or even have the last box in any of the sabers. I want to be more effective. Yet it seems that the sprayshot shoots too slow and my shot selection isnt working that way I had hoped. Can any of you MBH/MCarbs tell me what you do and how successful you have been?
I would use chargeshot1 instead of fire kd, and I almost never get a posture change from actionshot2(at least in pvp), just the auto bleed...So instead of kd fire or actionshots I would just spam chargeshot if you are going for the posture change....I would go with fullauto single to lay down states..or combine it with confsuinon shot....I dont have spray shot so I cant comment there...but three or four fullauto's and your target should have some states effecting him
imo
edit: btw I think Firekdis a garbage special
Message Edited by orange5 on 02-22-2005 09:42 AM
Well said.. Basicly what Spray shot doesn't it like fullauto single but much better it as a better dmg mod and sticks the stats better. I'll have to grind master carbine to really say anything.
Achyutathewook
Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:22 pm
#6
AaBeck wrote:
Achyutathewook wrote:
I know this has been asked a million times... but I would like more input.
I am a Master BH/Master Carbineer. I use Sprayshot and Confusionshot for my main attacks and use KnockdownFire and Actionshot1 for my posture changes. My accuracy is +209 and my speed is capped.
I have no problems soloing Jedi that are not MLS or even have the last box in any of the sabers. I want to be more effective. Yet it seems that the sprayshot shoots too slow and my shot selection isnt working that way I had hoped. Can any of you MBH/MCarbs tell me what you do and how successful you have been?
Get all 3 Status on him befor whiching to Crippling Shot, when thats done you can take out any thing... Knights thou you will need a Squard Leader in order to take on MLS Jedis but it can be done.
you can but 600 Damage carbs from me if you dont have any high damage
SWeet.. I'll contact you ingame.
Quich
Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:17 am
#7
Use sprayshot to land the mods, fire kd for the kd..., and crippling shot to kill him. Crippling shot has 1 of the best damage mods in the game. next to last ditch
ObikeFixx
Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:12 am
#8
Usually I do this.
I have this macro:
/intimidate1;
/sprayshot;
/sprayshot;
/sprayshot;
/Underhandshot; (still not sure which KD works best)
/deathblow
After I've tried this and if he doesn't go down I use the same except that the KD special is changed to /suppressionfire2.
I've never once experienced actionshot to actually work on a jedi - suppression on the other hand, works.
:::EDIT:::
Oh, yeah. Forgot to mention that when I get him down I spam crippling shot and sprayshot. The spray makes sure the dizzy is always on him, so he can't simply get up when it expires. The cripping is mainly damage.
Sometimes, when I need to kill fast. Maybe there's another one hacking away at me? I change to LLC when he's down nad dizzied. Use the most powerful single target LLC special (don't remember what it's called) Will kill them REALLY fast. But only when they're down.
I have this macro:
/intimidate1;
/sprayshot;
/sprayshot;
/sprayshot;
/Underhandshot; (still not sure which KD works best)
/deathblow
After I've tried this and if he doesn't go down I use the same except that the KD special is changed to /suppressionfire2.
I've never once experienced actionshot to actually work on a jedi - suppression on the other hand, works.
:::EDIT:::
Oh, yeah. Forgot to mention that when I get him down I spam crippling shot and sprayshot. The spray makes sure the dizzy is always on him, so he can't simply get up when it expires. The cripping is mainly damage.
Sometimes, when I need to kill fast. Maybe there's another one hacking away at me? I change to LLC when he's down nad dizzied. Use the most powerful single target LLC special (don't remember what it's called) Will kill them REALLY fast. But only when they're down.
Message Edited by ObikeFixx on 02-23-2005 06:15 PM
aqcsquirrelm
Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:21 am
#9
you have to hunt jedi to understand what this guy is talking about, When I hunt MLs I use full auto area 1 to land all my dots and a dizzy, well the dizzy is only 15 s on full auto compared a bh dizzy, so if your a bh why would you use carb specials for states etc, they are less effective.Firekd is very good cause it can kd/ dizzy at the same time if you catch an unprepared jedi with no foods you get an instant dizzy/kd.. Then I would recommend scattershot 2 over crip anyday, it hits all pools and it hits them very hard.. If you have a jedi spamming heal all self with force armor his force is gone, and secondly multiple pool attacks get through saber block alot more than crip would, I have gotten most of my jedi kills within 30 secs of seeing my target, I get off bike blow up theirsthen fire kd, then confusion/underhand if I didnt kd on first shot then do a few scatter shots3 1k+ shots in a row and its over, Ive hit jedi for 1850 with scatter 2, I use a 650 max laser carb theres much better out there....... the objective is to keep them on the ground at all costs, your damage goes up ALOT
ps: remember posture down and stun are jedi's nightmares, and Full auto area's get through saber block almost every time even mls, keep every state and dot you can on em, scatter blast/fire kd/underhand shot/ intim/ confusion/ full auto area is all I use
Message Edited by aqcsquirrelm on 02-23-2005 11:24 AM
Message Edited by aqcsquirrelm on 02-24-2005 10:47 PM
AnImpactPlayer
Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:37 pm
#10
Don't use FireKD, man. It's one crappy KD move.
Stick to Underhandshot and Debilitating Shot (Action 2)
aqcsquirrelm
Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:49 pm
#12
the point of fire kd is, an unprepared jedi with no dizzy/kd def or foods will get dizzy kd'd in one shot which saves time. I only use fire kd as first attack if It doesnt stick a kd I go to confusion and underhand, then scatterblast.. scatter blast hits multiple pools some jedi cant heal mind yet and it keeps them busy healing all self just not 1 or 2 pools
instapeace
Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:37 am
#13
I am quite successful. You need to begin your attack with sprayshot until the mark is stub/blind/dizzy, then use either suppressionfire2, chargeshot1, or fireknockdown. After they are stationary and they can not get up, you need to use scattershot2 or crippleshot to murder the mark.
Use parwan nutricakes to stay at your carbines optimal range value.
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