Carbineer Archive
Thread: BH 0300 master carbineer novice medic?
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iseinip
Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:51 pm
#1
I hit speed cap with any weapon have good attacks great accuracy
i currently have 0300 BH and 3402 carbineer i was wondering if it would be worth it to get master carbineer or dabble into pistoleer for defenses.. i hate being a complete dabbler but if its better then going straight carbineer i may do it.
Warmaker01
Mon Jun 28, 2004 5:19 pm
#2
There's one fundamental flaw if you intend to dabble into Pistoleer for defenses. Just getting Novice BH alone yields nearly zero defenses and eats lots of skill points up. Carbineer also right now inherently has very, very little defenses.
Ifyou intend to be a demon using BH to max out Carbines or Pistols, you will have little defenses. So, since defense is out of the question, I suggest to toss caution into the wind and go like Master Pistoleer/BH 0040 or Master Carbineer/BH 0400 at least. I've got a new character that I intend to go M.Carbines/BH 3400. I have a Master Commando on a different server, so pain is an old friend to me.
"If they can be fooled, they can be killed."
Warmaker01
Mon Jun 28, 2004 5:22 pm
#3
Forgot to add, adding Pistoleer defenses to your proposed template doesn't add enough defenses to make it worth while.
TheRealStarlighter
Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:29 pm
#4
You need to get BH 0400. Confusion shot is 75% of the reason I have BH. Without it, its kind of a waste of skill points when you just need master marksman and skill tapes to cap out.
Ajo79
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:26 am
#5
I were Master Carbineer, BH 0300 and Novice Medic for a whileand it was a very nice combo due to the speed you get. But like stated, you can buy speed tapes and get the exact same result. But tapes costs major amounts of credits and you need quite a few for +25 speed.
TAfirehawk
Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:04 am
#6
Warmaker01 wrote:
Forgot to add, adding Pistoleer defenses to your proposed template doesn't add enough defenses to make it worth while.
I picked up 0040 Pistoleer with my Master Carbineer and loved it. It sure does make a difference, although not nearly as much as when I picked up 4440 Fencer but it is still very nice.
novamarine
Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:59 am
#7
A fewthings...
You can pick up speed tapes and get close to the speed of the BH/carbineer combo. However, the best PvP gun these days is the slow DXR6 and damage-sliced versions of this are only really usable by people with +25 in tapes or BH/carbs. In essence, you can get close to what a BH/carb can do offensively, but you cannot really match it.
Also, the accuracy gain is nice and can be further suplimented with accuracy tapes.
And, the borgle cave which is where many tapes come from has been nerfed. My server is really feeling the effects of this. A few months ago I was bidding on 2-3 auctions at a time and these days I havent been in an auction in weeks. I am also richer than ever as a result...lol...
Basically what I am saying is you can get close to makeinga BH/carb with tapes but you are still missing a bit and if you dont have skill tapes right now, you might not be able to get them. If there are fewer tapes around the price is going to shootup and become a rich man's game.
TAfirehawk
Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:10 am
#8
I will match my Carbineer/Fencer/Pistoleer against ANY BH.....
novamarine
Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:16 am
#9
TAfirehawk wrote:
I will match my Carbineer/Fencer/Pistoleer against ANY BH.....
You and I have already discussed why....
TAfirehawk
Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:27 am
#10
novamarine wrote:
TAfirehawk wrote:
I will match my Carbineer/Fencer/Pistoleer against ANY BH.....
You and I have already discussed why....
And the challenge still stands as all I can do is work within the game mechanics given me......oh dear god I sound like a CM......
SHOOT ME, BURY ME, REZ ME..../rinse /repeat 
TheRealStarlighter
Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:57 am
#11
Must... get... ingame... to... kill... Iebas...
If you prove me wrong though.. I'll start collecting those skill tapes and pickup a little rifleman (I must keep somekind of long-duration dizzy) and then melee stack. Maybe I'll get Master Marksman until we can get FS trees to augment speed, so I can fire my 4.5 speed, 85 ideal range DXR6.
novamarine
Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:03 am
#12
TheRealStarlighter wrote:
Must... get... ingame... to... kill... Iebas...
If you prove me wrong though.. I'll start collecting those skill tapes and pickup a little rifleman (I must keep somekind of long-duration dizzy) and then melee stack. Maybe I'll get Master Marksman until we can get FS trees to augment speed, so I can fire my 4.5 speed, 85 ideal range DXR6.
By the time you get the FS speed, the speed equation will likely have changed to where +5 wont make the huge impact it does now.
I am really excited to see what a BH/carbineer with skill tapes is capable under the new system 
TheRealStarlighter
Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:10 am
#13
Well, the FS trees will be the publish before the combat revamp, and considering the magnitude of the combat revamp it'll take at least a month to do. I'm not very patient so if I have to I can regrind BH. I'm not shy about dropping investigation anymore. Even if I stay BH i'm gonna drop Investigation and pick up SL 0010 for FormUp (Heals Dizzy and Stun for anyone in your group anywhere on the same planet). I'm kinda thinking Carbineer won't stack well withBH. If it still does and makes a huge difference, we'll be seeing alot more *shudder* FOTMs.
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