Carbineer Archive

I know there's already a thread on this topic, but that thread's testing was incomplete.

I received a copy of PRIMA's new SWG strategy guide and to my surprise found a lot of useful and (seemingly) accurate information. Included in the guide is a very large table of every special ability in the game (including improved/advanced versions) that lists timd modifiers, damage modifiers, and action/mind/force costs. I've cross-checked the guide's information against posts in the Jedi, Pistoleer, and Carbineer forums and everything seems spot-on; in fact, it seems like a dev simply ran a script to read the game's data files and print it out in a table format. I know TAFirehawk is a stickler for good testing, but the information does seem correct based on the limited testing that's out there.

Anyways, I've incorporated the SAC costs of carb abilities into the Carbineer article at SWG Wiki. This includes action/mind cost modifiers for all our abilities as well as how to calculate exactly how much action you'll use when firing off a shot. Check it out!

Oh, and I also just finished a writeup on Combat Level and how to calculate it based on your skills, also based on information in the guide (an article written by the CU's lead designer). Maybe someone will find that useful.

Message Edited by InfluenzaSWTA on 06-15-2005 03:52 PM

According to the CL chart, you don't even need to master a single elite profession to get to CL 80. 4444 Carb+Pistol, and 4441 Rifle gets you 14 million CL exp. CL80 is 12 million. Hmmm.

The 12 million is just for advancing from CL 79 to 80... just like Master Carbineer needs 1 million Carbine XP just for itself, not total for all boxes below it. I need to fill in the "Total CL XP" column, but I got tired of typing. Another day.

For reference, CL 80 takes 353,097,492 cumulative CL XP. See if that matches up with your expectations.

Edit: Hmm, that seems a little off. Need to double check some things...

Message Edited by InfluenzaSWTA on 06-15-2005 04:19 PM

I believe that your stats for the CL exp req are the total exp over all the levels...

Any way to get the info for marksman specials and such updated?

Now there's an explanation for the SAC added... yesterday it wasn't there, so the percentages made little sense to me at that moment. Now i see and understand. (Hmm, should i also say "i believe" and we make a religion out of this? )

So lets say my character is Master Pikeman TK 4400 and doc 4004, how can i find out my CL. If i don't master two combat professions my health won't reach 3000 right?

Thank's in advance for any answers you mignt be able to provide

Cheers,

Fesse

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fessestarsider wrote:

So lets say my character is Master Pikeman TK 4400 and doc 4004, how can i find out my CL. If i don't master two combat professions my health won't reach 3000 right?

Thank's in advance for any answers you mignt be able to provide

Cheers,

Fesse

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Message Edited by Adval on 06-16-2005 06:16 PM

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Adval wrote:

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fessestarsider wrote:

So lets say my character is Master Pikeman TK 4400 and doc 4004, how can i find out my CL. If i don't master two combat professions my health won't reach 3000 right?

Thank's in advance for any answers you mignt be able to provide

Cheers,

Fesse

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I actually had to test this when I decided to switch my template. You get to cl80 before the dual mastery. I'm currently BH 444x, MC, 4xx3 CM and I'm cl80. I have3 sp remaining as I didn't have enough xp for xxx4 at the time. I also have 3 sp spent in FS skills.

So basicly no need for a dual mastery, just spent all your skill points in combat boxes.

Message Edited by Adval on 06-16-2005 06:16 PM

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Bennyboy: few dozen professions to work through. I'll get to it very soon

Sylow: the old numbers that were there were incorrect. Now they're fixed and have an explanation .

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fessestarsider wrote:

oki TY for the answers ! that's exactly what i needed to hear Altough, do you still get 3000 health?

Thank you Advius!

Cheers,

Fesse

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CL80 = 3k health, so yes.

Speaking of action costs, is it my imagination or have they increased since Pub 18? I'm always the first one out of action, partially due to being doshan. Lizards had crap action substats back when we could see them and suspect they still do. But beyond that, my low SAC weapons are draining me faster than ever before.

I was using a DC15 carb (SAC around 85 or something?) and I was using action up like when I had an E11 with a 140 SAC.

Unfortunately, I don't have any numbers to support. Was just going by feel.