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Thread: DOT Carbines? where to loot them

giffordgekko
Fri Nov 19, 2004 9:43 pm
#1

DOT Carbines? where to loot them - trade forums - everythings about the trade forum - the chances are of a carbineer looting a decent carb worth millions is as much as me posting on the carbineer forums again

Message Edited by giffordgekko on 11-22-2004 02:08 PM

aqcsquirrelm
Sat Nov 20, 2004 11:51 am
#2
Dots help me alot, Im not even master carbs yet, but when my freinds/guild drags me to pvp I just try to be the supporting carbineer playing and dot them to hell




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memnoch37
Sat Nov 20, 2004 2:32 pm
#3
Edited my comments out as they are now irrelevant. For some reason this guy changes the thread title and changes what his original post said after taking a cheap shot at my advice.


Completely incompetent...

Message Edited by memnoch37 on 11-23-2004 12:05 PM






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AdmiralSpy
Sat Nov 20, 2004 2:53 pm
#4

It boils down to the strength of your DoTs.


Right now, for Health, I can stack about 950 tick (in 3 poisons and 1 fire). In Mind, I can stack 700 tick (in 3 poisoins and 1 fire). In Action, I have a 254 strength poison, and can couple with LegShot3 (rarely use this one though.)


The duration on those Health and Mind DoTs is long enough that if a person couldn't heal themselves, it would naturally incap them after about 5-6 ticks.


As a general rule, I'm pretty much always going for Health Damage, because even Doctors have trouble healing all those DoTs and can't throw themselves a full heal long enough. The only templates that present a problem, though, are Melee/Docs with good armor/PSGs/foods, at which point, I have no choice but to go for the Mind Pool and hope that I can Warcry them and "force" atleast 2-3 ticks, and progressively rinse and repeat.


In my case, the DoTs I use far outweigh any damage I could dish out to Ranged Templates with mitigation. As far as Melee templates go, if they don't have Medic/Doctor skills, I'll just lightly stack them and use a Laser for standard CrippleShot. If they are Melee/Docs or Melee defense-stackers, though, I have to rely on DoTs to take them out.


You're right - DoTs are great, but not always needed. In many cases, a good dizzy and states and posture changes will keep our target down and we can kill them eventually. DoTs just speed up the process, and can make a difference between losing some of your teammembers,or basically "pwning" the opposing team.


FullAutoArea2 with DoTs works great, by the way. I always open up with several Health poisons.. it can only help.







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Engjo
Sat Nov 20, 2004 2:57 pm
#5


AdmiralSpy wrote:

It boils down to the strength of your DoTs.


Right now, for Health, I can stack about 950 tick (in 3 poisons and 1 fire). In Mind, I can stack 700 tick (in 3 poisoins and 1 fire). In Action, I have a 254 strength poison, and can couple with LegShot3 (rarely use this one though.)




hehe how long dose it take for you to get all these DOTs on a target? (lets say health only)



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AdmiralSpy
Sat Nov 20, 2004 3:22 pm
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Engjo wrote:


hehe how long dose it take for you to get all these DOTs on a target? (lets say health only)






7 of the 9 have potency above 90%, the other two are 33% and 74% I believe (sketchy on exact numbers.)


Assuming a 3 second switch per weapon, forboth Health and Mind, its a12 second switch time. ThenI use about1-2 uses (I FullAutoArea2 with each.. which ALSO inflicts states ), so about 20 seconds if I wantto stackALL health or ALL Mind.


20 seconds at the start of a fight isn't long.. but near the end,20 seconds can mean the difference between winning or losing. So generally, I only stackabout 2 Health or 2 Mind onesand then pick off anytargets with astandard Laser, unless a target really needs to bebrought down.


I like to go for Health of course, being a Carbineer, so I only use the Mind ones against strong PvP templates.


Don't ask how much all of those cost me.. you don't wanna know.. and I'm scared to think about it..lol

Message Edited by AdmiralSpy on 11-20-2004 05:24 PM



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Engjo
Sat Nov 20, 2004 8:50 pm
#7
hehe was thinking that... can't use all them in a PvP fight
or if you run much maybe it will work how good do you do it vs a doc?

hehe yee weird that some carbinens gose for alot of money these day
i buyed a mind poison 292str around 9k uses for 2-3millions some months ago and some weeks ago a str252 went for 10millions
and today (yesterday need to sleed soon:robotvery-happy i buyed a health poison carbine with 663str or something like that hope it dossent break on a repair

night...



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AdmiralSpy
Sat Nov 20, 2004 8:55 pm
#8




Engjo wrote:

hehe was thinking that... can't use all them in a PvP fight
or if you run much maybe it will work how good do you do it vs a doc?



The trick is to land a mind poison and then get them dizzy/KD or even better, warcried. Using FullAuto when using the DoT Carbine also ensures that they are dizzied, and since most combat doctors have a macro to heal dizzy.. you can time it with luck to eventually force a tick on doctors.


Generally, though.. melee docs have no ranged mitigation, so that's a plus for us.. and ranged docs have little dizzy/KD defenses, so that's a plus too.


Forcing a doctor to prioritize their states and postures over a DoT you inflict is the key.. and while it can take a while, constant pressure with a Mind DoT (or a powerful Health/Action DoT) is essential.





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giffordgekko
Sat Nov 20, 2004 10:13 pm
#9
so if i have 3 carbs with health dots i can change weapon and stack them?


and to the guy saying no decent composite on farstar lmao i have 44% stun and 80% special and the rest 90% suitso i reckon we have pretty good composite and every1 else prolly has more or less the same
aqcsquirrelm
Sat Nov 20, 2004 10:25 pm
#10
Isnt the only way to stack dots, is have them come from a different type of weapon like


dot ee3

dot laser carb


but not two ee3's would stack in same pool




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giffordgekko
Sat Nov 20, 2004 10:30 pm
#11




aqcsquirrelm wrote:

Isnt the only way to stack dots, is have them come from a different type of weapon like


dot ee3

dot laser carb


but not two ee3's would stack in same pool





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Kingrat66
Sun Nov 21, 2004 1:06 am
#12
Where can they be looted though? im too poor to buy off the forum.



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Engjo
Sun Nov 21, 2004 5:19 am
#13


aqcsquirrelm wrote:

Isnt the only way to stack dots, is have them come from a different type of weapon like


dot ee3

dot laser carb


but not two ee3's would stack in same pool


no... you can stack 2 dots with 2 diffrent ee3s
i got 2 mind poison laser carbines and they work nice




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