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Thread: Carbineer/Doc

Astute
Fri Apr 16, 2004 4:20 pm
#1

Well I just hit master doc, and am wondering about which ranged class to pick up,I know it isnt gonna be pistoleer, so all thats left is Rifleman and Carbineer, mabey you can help me decide. This char will be for pvp.


Rifleman:


  • Can target mind indefinatly, spamming HS3

  • Dosnt have that man state affects (Dizzy, Stun, KD ect)

  • Can dish out some major damage in pvp

  • Weapons have good armor pericing and stun

Carbineer:



  • Can throw on the state affects

  • Has KD

  • Dosn't have a good AP2 weapon in pvp

  • Really need to get the SEA's to become competative (I think?)

Anyways, I was just wondering what you would do. Can Carbineer even do damage in pvp without help? Or am I better of going rifleman?




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TyphonSet
Fri Apr 16, 2004 4:30 pm
#2
I was a Master CArbineer/MAster Doctor.... I can tell u if u want to Make a PVP Template with MAster Docter go MAster Rifleman... Or if U decide to Drop Doctor MAster CArbineer/Bounty Hunter CArbines III/NOvice MEdic and Prey fora Stun Weapon or Combat Balance Revamp....



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buster
Fri Apr 16, 2004 6:20 pm
#3
best carbineer combo = master carb/master fencer/tka (meditate and warrior)/novicemedic



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whiddawaht
Sun Apr 18, 2004 8:47 pm
#4
rifleman IS better but carbineers have nova




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Spyce_Slanga
Mon Apr 19, 2004 8:55 am
#5
Carbineer doc owns. Carbines can beat rifles one on one easily you just have to be smart.



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satanis
Mon Apr 19, 2004 9:01 am
#6

Spyce_Slanga wrote:
Carbineer doc owns. Carbines can beat rifles one on one easily you just have to be smart.




For PvP, at the current time with no impending or proposed changes, Rifleman.

The question for me as a carbineer is "what do you do if the enemy uses a Stim B?".



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Spyce_Slanga
Mon Apr 19, 2004 9:13 am
#7
Run up to point blank on them and spamfullauto single they will hit you only likeonce out of 10 shots and with little luck you can get a dizzy kd and slowly finish them off. I kill riflemen all the time.



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satanis
Mon Apr 19, 2004 9:23 am
#8

Spyce_Slanga wrote:
Run up to point blank on them and spamfullauto single they will hit you only likeonce out of 10 shots and with little luck you can get a dizzy kd and slowly finish them off. I kill riflemen all the time.




Thatkillo(sp). No more KD's in duels or PvP. If kd does work - I find my opponent is either dizzy or knockdown.

This is different for BH carbines - their specials seem to work well.

If I can put a buffed opponent on the floor, 20 seconds later he can stand up. One stim-b later he is healed. - I can spam crippling shot at the speed cap with an elite it just doenst seem to do enough.

Sorry, for PvP, worry about how much mind damage you can do. Carbineer are great, but if honestly asked "whats better for PvP" rifleman is the way to go.



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Spyce_Slanga
Mon Apr 19, 2004 9:38 am
#9

Yeah riflemen definatly have an advantage but that by no means you should rule out carbines.THe main thing carbs have over rifles is that they can compete at close quarters as rifles can barely hit stuff. ALso carbines own groups. Get a group of 6 people+ dizzy,blind and stun, half of them kdedand start a little burst run circle around them and you can own them.


Bh/carb is good i was that for 6 months its great but i recently went up doc and it owns more. Yeah their specials are good but I prefer doc cause of self buffing, poison heal and healing states and being able to heal every 2 seconds. As for that kd food i think it does cap at a certain point cause ive kd people who had taken some and dizzy/posture change will kd if you are really desperate for a kd. kd isnt really a make or break a fight skill.




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AdmiralSpy
Mon Apr 19, 2004 9:40 am
#10
It really depends by what you define as 'PvP' - offensive or defensive.


Stanis is right - currently,if you pit anequally smartrifleman against a carbineer, the rifleman will win (even though I've taken on multiple riflemen at a time.) It's just the Mind Damage. With musician/dancer buffs, you've however got a great chance.


But this is only if you're strickly talking 'solo' or 'small group' offensive PvP. If you're with a more seasoned group, they can and will benefit from your Master Doctor abilities. A Dizzy/KD is the end of most players - you can fix that. Fires, Poisons, Stuns, Intimidates will all crush your team - you can fix that.


And let's not forget the last minute buffs if needed.


You'll never be a top damage-dealer unless you either invest in the BH Carbine line, Fencer, or just outright go Rifleman. That's a given. But, you can be an awesome tactical player in PvP with the Carbineer/Doc combo. If you like teamwork and strategy, this is for you. If you like going Overt in Theed or Coronet and 'PvPing' (if you can call it that), then perhaps another template is better suited for you.



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Spyce_Slanga
Mon Apr 19, 2004 10:01 am
#11
True. But with doc it also adds a lot to your offensive potential. You can use those scopped carbines with stocks and be able to spam your specials with them. Really all you need to do with this profession is spam fullauto single 2 and put in a little posture change here and there and you can beat almost anything with some decent equipment i havent even had trouble vs buffed and armored melee guys when i wasnt even kiting.



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DoctorCoryn
Sun Apr 25, 2004 7:46 pm
#12

check out my Doc/Carb post that I wrote for Nova...


I'll dig it up and /bump it or link it to this thread





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DoctorCoryn
Sun Apr 25, 2004 7:49 pm
#13

here's my write-up on the Doctor/Carbineer combo that I wrote for Nova...


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=carabineer&message.id=26952#M26952





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Coryn Dularen (Shen)
Master Doctor, Master Carbineer
==Former HGate Chief Medical Officer==
Official Carbineer Motto: "Carbineer - Stunning crowds since Publish 7"

"The Irish MP's are NOT 'after me frosted lucky charms'"
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