Carbineer Archive

Thread: Frustrated.

SithLordTarnez
Tue Oct 14, 2003 10:00 am
#1

I've been a carbineer for a little while now and I must say that it is getting frustrating. The way things are going for me, it seems that I can give good support while in groups, but while solo, it's not as good. BH's get better speed and accuracy mods and at a faster rate than us, which is fine, but we should get something better than gimped specials to balance it out.


The best way to do this I think would be to improve the Elite Carbine or perhaps change the Elite to AP2 and the Laser to AP1. I have an elite with 2.5 sliced speed, and I still favour my slower Laser due to the better dmg I get off specials.


Does anyone here feel the same way? Does it get better with higher skills in the trees? Currently I'm at 3,2,0,2, so I don't expect to be uber or anything, but compared to other professions, we seem to be lacking in some way.


Perhaps I'm expecting too much from it at lower skill levels, but let me know what you think anyway.




Gaurek D'El
PM...GOD...HATED...-=VNV=-
Last Man Standing.
RoyceCattemara
Tue Oct 14, 2003 11:03 am
#2

Once you get the cripple shot, duels get a lot more fun.


Once Master, I plan on doing a ton of PVP. I'm Imperial, so I know I'll be facing at least 3 Rebels at once, and the area KD is just SOOOOOO tempting. Is AS 2 supposed to be area bleed? That'd be nice. I've noticed it hits area, but haven't checked to see if it bleeds them all.

SOJ
Tue Oct 14, 2003 11:25 am
#3

Just don't give up. Changes are so very close. I can't say when right now but they are definately coming. My thoughts on the next patch are very real for those who read any of my previous threads regarding that. And I think I'm going to stop right there before I say something that I shouldn't.
SithLordTarnez
Tue Oct 14, 2003 11:31 am
#4

Hey, thanks for the input. I never planned on dropping it, mainly because I'm a stubborn ass. I like a challenge and I like being in a proffession that is rather rare on my server (Tarq.) If due changes are soon in the works, then that's good to hear.



Gaurek D'El
PM...GOD...HATED...-=VNV=-
Last Man Standing.
Drace
Wed Oct 15, 2003 2:46 pm
#5

Once Master, I plan on doing a ton of PVP. I'm Imperial, so I know I'll be facing at least 3 Rebels at once, and the area KD is just SOOOOOO tempting. Is AS 2 supposed to be area bleed? That'd be nice. I've noticed it hits area, but haven't checked to see if it bleeds them all.


DREAM ON, CHARGE SHOT 2 [as with 80% of our other specials] DOESN'T WORK AT ALL! SURPRISE SURPRISE


p.s. Ten days till Final Fantasy XI comes out. That's my date of which I cancel both of my accounts and vanish if this **edit** isn't fixed.




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cloakanddagger
Wed Oct 15, 2003 3:35 pm
#6

SOJ, you just gave me a lot of hope there. I was questioning my stubornness in clinging to the Carbineer class myself, even though I recently took the final steps to commit myself to it. I have heard nothing but bad things from the Carbineer forum, and even though I planned to follow through with the Carbineer / Doctor path, my sanity in doing so instead of going Pistoleer was floating in and out of my mind. I want what I want though, and I want Carbineer, not Pistoleer. I'm glad to hear you say that changes are in the works, because I've noticed the drop in my fighting abilities since I surrendered the BH carbine skills to take up med school. Here's to hoping that those fixes come sooner than later.



Patron Saint of Judgement - Eryn GreyWolf
Aram1
Wed Oct 15, 2003 4:24 pm
#7

Yeah Charge shot 2 would be fun as heck in PvP, but it doesnt work.


Charge shot gets resisted about 99.9% of the time, if you have it, you know what I mean. Granted there is a slight bug in our favor there.


Hey SOJ, why do they not let you tell us about future updates/fixes whatnot? Is it they dont want to be obligated to do fixes they just throw around, or what?


I read a number of the profession boards, and all the correspondants are saying they arent talk about changes, which I find kind of odd. You are our medium to the devs, and they wont let you tell us whats going on?

SkyyZeRo
Wed Oct 15, 2003 6:58 pm
#8

Chargeshot2 works??? I can't even KD a single target with chargeshot2.


pvp, I do FireKD if they not down follow tieh Chargeshot, and cripple it's quick...



I remeber going to AH (yeah fear me rebels), they were all lined up so I did 2 fullauto's and 3 wildshot2 's and I incapped 2 ppl and the other 6 where 1/2 hams LoL, it was a sight to see =).


SOJ
Wed Oct 15, 2003 8:12 pm
#9

Hey Aram,


I'm not going to sugar coat this. Honestly, I don't know why. You may be right, everything starts with propasals and ideas. Nothing is done immediately. I assume they don't want to do one thing and then say, "well.. maybe we can do this instead." Either way, we won't be able to say a thing until permitted, which will most likely be when we can announce everything.

Aram1
Wed Oct 15, 2003 8:52 pm
#10

I figured as much. Good to hear some fixes are coming, sometime soon hopefully.


Keep up the good work SOJ.


atimes
Fri Oct 17, 2003 6:51 am
#11

Personally I've always just favored my carbine to a pistol or a rifle. I was a carbineer got a skill box and then became a BH for a bit. Got burned out on all the down time between missions and swapped back to carbineer. Even when I was a BH I favored my carbine over any other weapon. I know we'll be fixed eventually and I know SOJ is on a gag order but things will get better.


And kudo's to the original poster for not turning this into a THE BH IS BETTER IN THE CARBINE THAN WE ARE WAAAAA thread. They get 4 specials a bit more speed and accuracy and THAT'S IT.


We get 15 specials (when they work we will own group crowd control. The key word is WHEN) accuracy while moving, defensive mods (true they need to be fixed but we get them) and counterattack bonuses.


Personally I think our speed needs to be bought in line with pistoleers and riflemen. If you'll notice we get the least amount of speed mods out of all three ranged professions.

SithLordTarnez
Sun Oct 19, 2003 8:16 am
#12

Thanks for the feed back guys. It's nice too see that the odd thread can be discussed withouta whine session ensueing. I'm gonna stick it out myself.With some fixes going in, things will definitely improve.



Gaurek D'El
PM...GOD...HATED...-=VNV=-
Last Man Standing.
moonreft
Mon Oct 20, 2003 2:24 pm
#13

I will complain that we are the most broken ranged class of the game and will quit if I see no changes made like yesterday...... SONY is retarded to put a product on the market with SOOOOOOO many issues, in the end its just about pushing the product to the marketand makeing the buck i guess. (dosnt mean I have to tolerate it and will seriously think of boycotting Sony)

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