Carbineer Archive
Thread: I AM GOD OF ALL THAT IS CARBINE
I am a Carbineer. I just wanted to say regardless of HAM costs and moves that don't work, Carbines are ridiculously powerful and I enjoy every second of it. I do missions by myself on Dath and I'm not even barely able to do medic skills. I can clear out the entire tusken fort by myself as well. You don't believe me? Then just go on a mission with Khar Ramsus. I am on Eclipse server, please give me a tell. Carbines are awesome. I attack so fast, and I do 2000-6000 damage easy. I use a lame sliced Laser carbine that does 338 max damage and is 3.7 speed. The weapon speed doesn't matter for all of you confused people that brag about having 1.2 or 2.2 speed weapons. I can do crippleshot as fast as it can be spit out by the graphics on the computer I use.
Khar Ramsus
Carbines 4-4-4-4
Bounty Hunter 0-4-0-0
Bring it!
PS> Commandos, TKAs, they are all easy.
OK...this one is a flame...you are a moron!!! There are 5 million other topics on this board saying the same freaking thing. Well, Carbs rock because I am a doc and a BH and I can kill anyone in the whole game without even thinking about it. Why do you feel the need to tell us this? Please, please tell me that you are 12 and then I can kinda, sorta forgive you...otherwise, all that you are doing is angering the rest of us who have patiently waited for 4 months now to get any kind of fix to our profession.
The devs are probably not looking at us because 80% of the carbineers are over on the BH boards saying how great carbs are. I wouldn't be suprised if we ended up getting nerfed because the **edit** BHs are so powerful.
From now on, anyone that has a BH anywhere in their signature who wants to tell us how l33t they are, please go over to the BH boards and post it there. Then you can all be l33t together and amybe we can catch a fix or two. I appologize to any BHs who are not idiots, it is just a case of 20% of you making the other 80% look bad.
ok well... first of all, there is not a single class in the game that is totally self suffencient. If you think you have found a class that is please let me know. I would love to see a Bounty Hunter without his scatter pistol. A TKA without a pet, without doctors buffs, without VK's. No matter how you look at this game its all about the combination of skills you use. Now i got sent into the carbineer tree from the holocron i looted today so ive started working on it and i came to this fourm to see what information i could find out since ive never even looked at the tree before. But all i can find here is people saying im god this because i have all these skills, or you suck that because you cant just be a carbineer, i bet the guy who said that has something other than carbine skills. And im thankful that i was already a master doc/TKA when i had to drop TKA for carbine because the ham cost suck but i do not even notice them.
Thanks and have a nice Day
Darcia Sano
Sunrunner
Don't judge the carbineer profession with other skills aiding it.
Professions should be gauged on their effectivness stand-alone. Not a flame, but it does the profession no good for people with BH carbine 4, doctor/med skills, or CH skills to come in and say " Carbineers are fine because I have XX skills to compensate".
Carbineer should be viable and good on its own - currently its not.
I would not say carbines are ridiculosly powerfull. Plenty of other professions can do what you describe and more. Ever seen a master rifleman use strafe shot 2? I think it has a higher modifier than Crippling Shot. Or pistoleers pop off Stopping Shots at super fast speed? Carbines don't really stand out as being that powerful.
Weapon speed DOES matter for those of us who dont have BH 4 carbine, once again. Your BH skills are interferring with your judgement of the carbineer class. Try dropping those skills and making this same post. You'll find its a very different profession when you dont get that +80 speed and accuracy, or whatever it is. I'm a master carbineer and I get +60 speed I believe. It's pretty much impossible to shoot crippling shots at 1.0 speed.
You're right, Rostadroid - you'll enjoy your trip through carbineer without master doctor already under your belt. I'd ignore a lot of what some folks have to say here. As itneverstops admits, carbine with BH mods makes carbine TOO powerful, yet master carbineer without these mods is too weak.
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=carabineer&message.id=9472
Stoneproof is just obviously engaging in some mental masturbation and tootling his own horn about how l33t he is. BH mods + dabbling in carbineer or pistoleer results in delusions of grandeur. He doesn't have a clue what carbineer is like without the BH mods. Someday the devs will wake up and make the mods not stack and increase the power of pistoleer and carbineer while doing something different with the BH. Unfortunately I have the feeling the vast majority of us will have quit the game by then, of course.
But you've got the right attitude, Rostadroid - getting to master carbineer is a doable task for you. I am sure you'll have some fun along the way, but I sure am happy you have doctor to support your ham-draining habit!
. For now, Carbines rock with BH skills...if they nerf that (as they did many of the skills I learned playing other MMORPGs) then I will just move to the skill that doesn't slow me down and make my abilities inhibit me from enjoying the full value of the game. For those of you who are interested though, try it out. I love to do skills where everyone avoids because it is supposivly weak. You attack for lots of damage really fast. Doctors can brag about healing themselves of HAM costs, but when you have 4 knockdown attacks (2 of which cause dizzy and one that also causes stun), you don't have to worry about them healing because they are lying down on the ground and can't get up. I only need 2 cripple shots or 3 for someone with composite armor. I especially love the typical commando because he brings out his heavy weapon (often flamethrowers) and starts charging. I charge too, with Charge Shot, then I follow with Confuse shot, then Cripple shot, then Underhand shot...by then he's on the ground crying, and I'm standing there attacking as fast as the game will let you fire, with my ridiculous speed. For those of you who use pets, I will just use my robo-pet, the AT-ST. Why waste skill pointson letting something else do the fighting for you? PFFT.
Do you have any idea how harmful this kind of boastful bulls**t can be? This is a board dedicated to trying to repair a class that has been defective since the game was releaseed. If you feel the need to stroke your ego, do so elswhere. /end flame
The Carbineer profession--without additional skills from other classes--is seriously flawed and overall is the defensively weakest, offensively slowest and least damaging elite range weapon class.
Do not let the BH skill tree cloud the issue--Carbineer is in serious need of repair.
As to the postmentioning the interdependency on other classes, of course we do--as intended. However, Weapon Smith, for example, is designed to fulfill a role of it's own despite the fact that it is a necessary profession to so many other classes. It is not designed based onwhere the smith elected to put his/her other skill points. Similarly, Carbineer--and every other class--should be functioning properly on it's own, not just working well when combined with some other class. At present, that simply is not the case with Carbineer.
Vinaddar
Master Carbineer
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Just kill me, please...
Aalyn Sordante - Bria Novice Carbinier, Medic.
How did I know that the original poster had an AT-ST? As a carbineer from the beginning, I am still unimpressed with the carbineer as a stand alone profession. It needs a lot of work but it has come a long way too. Still posts like this are great IMO, although it may cause us to get nerfed initially it will hit BHs the hardest. Eventually BH and commando skills will not stack with other combat skills, and in the name of balancing, all will be well (sarcasm intended).
A final shout out to all you L337 Uber Doods out there: YOU ROCK!
Krymelord...just out of curiousity, what doe sthe following mean in your post:
"It needs a lot of work but it has come a long way too."
I agree 100% with the first part, we do need a lot of work, but in what way have we come a long way? So far, we have gotten nothing but nerfs, so what exactly are you talking about?
Please do not get me wrong, I am not trying to be rude to you in any way, I am really just wondering.