Carbineer Archive
Thread: Lost to carbineer in duel!?!?
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n00bit
Mon Jul 26, 2004 6:35 pm
#1
Ok I've heard that carbine sucks in PvP...so how is this possible? I had full composite 80%+ on. Master pikeman/4404 cm. Some carbineer challenges me to a duel..mind you he has only mastered carbine so I thought him a noob. I had buffs and eveything. I let him go out 40m to start....he kds and dizzies me....thats ok. What happens next...1600 damage a shot! I didnt know any weapon did this much damage in PvP...are all u carbineers this godly or did he have some double sliced legendary thing? If you are all this good...damn I'm never dueling one of you again.
Rbstr
Mon Jul 26, 2004 6:45 pm
#2
He may have had some BH carbine skills, Fireknockdows is the onlyhting that we have i think that can KD and dizzy
Kaelle_DB
Mon Jul 26, 2004 7:08 pm
#3
450 damage laser carbine * 1.33 (max damage power up) = 598
598 * 7.5 (crippling or scattershot 2) * 1.5 (KD modifier) = 6733 * 1.25 (ap2 vs ar1)
8416* .25 (PvP reduction) = 2104
of course this would only hit you for420 or so damage after your armor...
Message Edited by Kaelle_DB on 07-26-2004 07:12 PM
AdmiralSpy
Mon Jul 26, 2004 7:15 pm
#4
Your lack of Ranged Mitigation essentially killed you.
Since damage gets I think a 50% boost when you're KDd.. anyone with a standard "off-the-shelf" carbine that can fire CrippleShot at speedcap can make quick work of pure melee or support/cm templates if the latter are dizzy/KDd.
But such instances, I find, are rare and few in PvP. Had you been able to toss a mind poison and run away.. maybe eaten defense vs KD food, you would have kept your paradigm on Carbineers.. if we can't KD, we can only land states.. and those are rather useless if they can't be used to our advantage.
Message Edited by AdmiralSpy on 07-26-2004 10:15 PM
n00bit
Mon Jul 26, 2004 9:30 pm
#5
Yeah I was kd when he shot me for 1600...well I guess it just goes to show ya that u should never underestimate a noobie with a carbine.
Doq_Utek
Mon Jul 26, 2004 11:40 pm
#7
MehoKaric wrote:
If you're good with a carbine, you're no newbie.
Nice, I like that line 
JohnnyDepp
Tue Jul 27, 2004 2:37 am
#8
Carbineer doesn't suck in pvp. I have beaten virtually every templat out there whether it be Rifle/TKM/Fencer templates with stun weaps or BH/Pistoleers with Geo Pistols. Carbineer might not be able to spam one special kills but with the right combination of moves and decent carbine, we can manage as well as anyone out there.
Natures-Ranger
Tue Jul 27, 2004 3:40 am
#9
n00bit wrote:Yeah I was kd when he shot me for 1600...well I guess it just goes to show ya that u should never underestimate a noobie with a carbine.
Dude, no Elite Professions can be called n00bs.. Elite is Elite!
Bipolo "Stalker" Naefae
KilferfUhn
Tue Jul 27, 2004 5:36 am
#10
I beat two of my guildmates in duels last week. I can't remember what their prof's were but one was a scout/rifle and the other, if i'm not mistaken (???) was one of those bounty hunter with carbine skills...i dunno, i know he had carbine skills so i THINK he had to have had some bounty hunter, cuz i know he wasn't a master carbineer. Anyway...good lord i couldn't believe it...
I wear some cheap armor (less than 2 months into game yet, mind you), and i had recentley bought myself a 200k stun helm to help me live longer when trying to defend our (old) base, although i'm not sure if that was a contributing factor lol. I also have a stun shield generator thingy...i don't ever know if it's working or not though lol.
I used a Krayt enhanced E-11, something like 1.6 speed with a 31% speed pup (i go for speed over damage, don't know why...i figure sticking as many states/knockdowns as possible is best for me atm) , decent to good damage i believe and an ok bleeding DOT on it aswell. Anyway, i just kept sticking states, and every 20 seconds or so (i can't remember how long that space is between being able to knockdown same target again) i would fire off some more knockdowns till one took, then just charge shot while they flopped, rinse and repeat. The key to beating the rifleman was keeping him stated and keeping him VERY close, he couldn't hit me fast enough. I don't know how/why i beat the other guy lol.
Was pretty cool, from all that i've read in these forums regarding pvp carbineers i didn't think i had a snowballs chance in..........yeah. One could argue many, many things about those 2 duels. Fact is i'm a noob, they weren't. I don't have access to uber weapons and armor like they do (yet, hehe)
Woot? 
JanuHull
Tue Jul 27, 2004 6:59 am
#11
Lack of Ranged Mitigation, blinding luck in landing a Dizzy and KD relatively fast (it has happened with FullAutoSingle and ChargeShot back to back before), and he probably beetcha slapped you with a Laser Carbine or an Elite for those kinds of numbers.
Carbineers can very easily hold their own between 30-45 meters against just about anyone.
Rarool
Tue Jul 27, 2004 6:59 am
#12
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
were all noobs that can't pvp...
(let them underestimate us...)
I love the post fight tells.. rotfl
Easy-Exanip
Tue Jul 27, 2004 10:07 am
#13
n00bit wrote:
Ok I've heard that carbine sucks in PvP...so how is this possible? I had full composite 80%+ on. Master pikeman/4404 cm. Some carbineer challenges me to a duel..mind you he has only mastered carbine so I thought him a noob. I had buffs and eveything. I let him go out 40m to start....he kds and dizzies me....thats ok. What happens next...1600 damage a shot! I didnt know any weapon did this much damage in PvP...are all u carbineers this godly or did he have some double sliced legendary thing? If you are all this good...damn I'm never dueling one of you again.
Yea I have beaten some melee guys real bad with carbines, they hate it! Fencer+favorite brawling profession getting shot for 1000+ damage while standing up. I get alot of /endduel because I kite them, then they tell me that is bull**edit** and I cheat, well carbine has been way over looked for a long time.
I beat this staked up melee temploiter in full comp while I was wearing Mabari armour weave, and was pissy about the whole thing as I sprayed him for 1000's of points of damage.
I also dont have any krayt weapons, I have a damage sliced 112-570 laser carbine. So cripplingshot will destroy any melee classes.
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