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Thread: Any successful slumords..err landlords out there?

Kinshi
Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:58 pm
#1

Has anyone succesfully operated 'rental' housing in SWG? I was thinking of setting up a bunch of houses to offer as rentals to players and was wondering what issues you have encountered being a landlord?


I was thinking this could be a good way to make some supplemental cash off of my unused lots without resorting to lot swapping.
Emperorrpa
Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:11 pm
#2


lol, cool idea. I'd never thought of it, but it could work. artisans could use it for storage or even an exstra shop and you could bann them if they fell behind on payments, plus they couldn't redeed as long as you remained the owner.


Cool, idea, defenetly bring a new level to the game.


Though I'd feel like Don Naughts from threes comany





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Sneev
Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:53 pm
#3

You do have a problem I suppose, although its not unlike the real world. If you set up a house, then "rent" it to someone else for a nominal fee as say storage, you can do so by giving them Admin access to the house, but you retain that access yourself as the owner, so there is nothing to prevent you from ripping off all their stuff on them if you chose to. It would take a sense of trust it might be hard to garner.

The second problem is simply that a house is so cheap to buy that its not an obstacle to most people. If it were translated into an ingame price comparable to real world prices, then I suspect a small home would cost around 1m credits, a medium around 5m, and a large around 20m or so. At this point, renting might become more viable.

As it stands right now, I suspect your only market might be for people who are a) new and have almost no money, b) Crafters who want to maximize their harvester lots and will pay to rent your house lot.

I would think there might be more money in speculation. Buy a house, set it up and equip it with everything, furniture, decorations, optional crafting stations etc, then sell it for 100k to someone who wants a house and they get the whole package without having to track it all down themselves. I think some people might like that as a service.



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bluejanus
Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:18 pm
#4

Yeah difficult to set up a trust relationship like this unless with someone you trusted in your guild.





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Giamai
Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:52 pm
#5

i have heard of people doing something slightly different...renting vendor space in houses in high traffic areas like outside theed and coronet.


in that case, you only need put the person on admin long enough to drop a vendor which means the owner still gets the storage space. the merchant gets a good spot for a vendor. and i have not heard many exploiting complaints about it





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bluejanus
Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:22 am
#6



Giamai wrote:

i have heard of people doing something slightly different...renting vendor space in houses in high traffic areas like outside theed and coronet.

in that case, you only need put the person on admin long enough to drop a vendor which means the owner still gets the storage space. the merchant gets a good spot for a vendor. and i have not heard many exploiting complaints about it






Except the store owner can't remove the vendor. While I've heard some scamming involving the admin access, I've quite a number of complaints about people who were initially allowed to set down vendors but refused to get rid of them when they wore out their welcome.





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Giamai
Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:12 am
#7

yeah can't imagine that there isn't a way to abuse any system involving building access, and i can't believe such things have never happened, just haven't heard of it happening much


lets face it, any deal like this would have to be with people you trust. the system just doesn't allow for anything else





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Kinshi
Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:53 am
#8

Does anyone know if you cans still ban tenants who dropped vendors in the rental unit? and if someone drops vendors in there and wont pull them, is there any precedent of CSRs clearing the vendors out for you?


Also, I know if you could block out your unwanted tenant long enough, it can force his vendors to delist after a perioid of inactivityand go poof.
Ojes
Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:08 am
#9

The idea has some merit, though I agree that the trust thing would be difficult to overcome. I do rent lots from a RL friend of mine, but I use it for additional factories. I think that would be a safer market for you.


It would have to be a high-volume crafter (or a temporary need for extra production capacity) to make it pay off for the renter. As the renter, I would have little concern about renting a factory for production use. I would never use that for storage of any kind, so you would likely have to be quite mobile since most people would likely only need the capacity for a short time.


As a comparison, I pay my friend a couple hundred k or so per lot per week (paid monthly in advance). I based that figure on an estimated amount of credits he could earn by contract harvesting with those same lots. The only issue I have with this is that he gets the email notifications when the factory shuts down instead of me. I only do full runs in those factories and always run them in lock step with one of my own so I can just use that email as a general signal that all of the factories of that type are complete...





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