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Suarve

Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:06 am

Guys Garva has locked the petition thread and I can understand why he has done this. I've sent him a message though to try to unlock it as I feel we were making a lot of progress on this:

"Hi Garva

You've just locked the thread I created for a petition can you please reopen it as its purpose is more than just to guage agreement on whats been said its an open discussion and new items are added to it almost every post.

As you can see in the main 'top' thread of it that this thread was created as the changes within are not profession specific and we have no correspondent to the development team.

Please reconsider your action.

Curry"

Hopefully we can continue the discussion and help to make SWG a little better for all.

Thanks for the support and comments.

Curry

Message Edited by Suarve on 02-22-2005 03:08 PM

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Suarve

Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:12 am

#2

Ok..... not sure how this post warranted a 1 star but hey there are some odd people out there.

Curry

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Scudder

Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:39 am

#3

Perhaps it's the word PETITION that got the thread locked. Petitions are by and large ignored. I'd suggest trying again with less threatening overtones.

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Suarve

Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:52 am

#4

Scudder wrote:

Perhaps it's the word PETITION that got the thread locked. Petitions are by and large ignored. I'd suggest trying again with less threatening overtones.

You are right - Garva has refused to reopen the thread and has suggested we open a 'discussion' thread - which is was already in essence. I've asked him to reopen the thread so I can change its title and ask people to no longer post '/sign' and simply post comments on whats suggested......... would be the better solution as there has been a lot of contribution already to the thread.

Curry

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MDEUK

Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:57 am

#5

The idea you have is a sensible one, but you will get more success by taking a more sensible approach:

1. Don't start petitions, the Devs have already said that they consciously ignore them and all petition threads will be locked.

2. The correct way to get serious issues to the Devs is through Correspondents who have a good track record of getting their profession's issues resolved.

3. Avoid emotion and sensationalism - it undermines your argument and annoys people - calling this post 'Silence of Lambs' does your cause no good will just encourage people to flame you.

That aside, I agree with your suggestion and hope that the Merchant and Artisan correspondents pick this up and run with it

Suarve

Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:08 am

#6

MDEUK wrote:

The idea you have is a sensible one, but you will get more success by taking a more sensible approach:

1. Don't start petitions, the Devs have already said that they consciously ignore them and all petition threads will be locked.

2. The correct way to get serious issues to the Devs is through Correspondents who have a good track record of getting their profession's issues resolved.

3. Avoid emotion and sensationalism - it undermines your argument and annoys people - calling this post 'Silence of Lambs' does your cause no good will just encourage people to flame you.

That aside, I agree with your suggestion and hope that the Merchant and Artisan correspondents pick this up and run with it

1. Taken on the chin - no problem with this.

2. Unfortunatley there is no clear 'correspondent' for this change thus no way to get it to the development team which was stated in my thread.

3. Again taken on the chin with this one - might have been done through frustration on being silenced when the thread was reallly making progress in comments etc.

I WILL be starting a new thread - but as I'm at work right now I guess I should earn my keep

Cheers

Curry

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MDEUK

Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:23 am

#7

Suarve wrote:

1. Taken on the chin - no problem with this.

2. Unfortunatley there is no clear 'correspondent' for this change thus no way to get it to the development team which was stated in my thread.

3. Again taken on the chin with this one - might have been done through frustration on being silenced when the thread was reallly making progress in comments etc.

I WILL be starting a new thread - but as I'm at work right now I guess I should earn my keep

OK. I respect your comments. Good luck!

Hampster2

Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:37 am

#8

Keep us posted man. Don't understand why they don't like "Petitions" vs. "Discussions" but still hope that in some way we can get them to pay attention to this issue. Perhaps Garva or someone else would be kind enough to point us towards a thread explaining why SOE doesn't like "Petitions"?

Cheers,
radiant.Arba

Tuscanspeed

Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:28 am

#9

petitions arent constructive, it one person saying "do this!" and everyone agree/disagreeing.

discussion is deeper and broader in its scope.

demanding something gets you nothing.

logically talking about the pros/cons of a thingmay change the dev's minds.

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Suarve

Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:28 am

#10

Hampster2 wrote:

Keep us posted man. Don't understand why they don't like "Petitions" vs. "Discussions" but still hope that in some way we can get them to pay attention to this issue. Perhaps Garva or someone else would be kind enough to point us towards a thread explaining why SOE doesn't like "Petitions"?

Cheers,
radiant.Arba

In hindsight petitions are used in order to force something to happen which isn't really what we want to do here - we were discussing a way of improving the game for all rather than saying 'Do this now or there will be consequences' as petition generally entails.

I've just got home now so i'll start collating the new thread.

Curry

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Suarve

Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:56 am

#11

The new thread is Here

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Milgram

Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:44 am

#12

Suarve wrote:

Ok..... not sure how this post warranted a 1 star but hey there are some odd people out there.

Curry

It did, and there are.

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