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Thread: wanna get rid of spammers?
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tsconver
Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:05 am
#14
I posted this idea in another forum but it could also get some interesting comments here so here is what i posted prior.
THis is just a thought but please comment, and please don't flame. The flames serve no purpose. I would however love constructive critism.
"I am not sure I agree with non combat zones. I think the major problem is lag in these busy areas caused by combat, spam and lots of people. I hate to jump into an area and then take 2 minutes to load and get attacked cause I exceeded the safety timer. I think a more reasonable fix would be to reduce the lag.
This could be done by baring the calling of pets and vehicles and droids in and around SP and Shuttle Ports. Eleiminate shouts and needless spam in these areas as well. It is so frustrating to get endless spam about auctions and the like or just to have a jerk pull his pet and haveit patrol a SP to create lag. These issues need fixing.
Force the DOcs to move outside to buff, maybe even a 50 meter radius or better yet force them to buff in the med center if one is in the town, that is what they are for. I am sorry I have never seen a doc standing at my local bus stop giving flu shots and I know Luke never stopped off at the local SP to get a buff before fighting Vader.
Put some realism back. Force docs to either go outside city limtis and use a droid or go to the med centers to buff, make spammers use the auction channel, i know I use it if I want to buy something if I do not need anything I should not have to put up with endless spam. Maybe set up a daily email that sends out all auctions that a vendor can send txt to orbetter yet the SOE website we do have one we are all using it now to read this.
This is long but I think my main frustration and many others and will drive me away the fastest is the insane lag that is getting worse right now caused by spammers and the like in and around major chioke points in the game.
My 2 credits worth."
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=GCW&message.id=278307
Just a thought.
Message Edited by tsconver on 01-25-2005 12:14 PM
tsconver
Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:44 am
#15
Spam, pets, and vehicles. There's most of the lag right there, followed by doctor buff lines (meanwhile med centers are ghost towns). It takes me up to 10 minutes to get a game screen when landing at C'Net. And when I do finally show up, my text window scrolls SPAM for an additional 1-3 minutes (really!) before I can say or do anything.
5 stars,
My point exactly. If we prohibit pets and droid and vehicles with in 100m of a SP or maybe within a civilized city period (theed, coronet, bestine, etc) the lag would have to go down tremendously. By prohibiting the droids you force docs to buff outside the city limits, in a non civilized city, in a player city or in the med center where they should be in the first place. we don't let entertainers dance in the SP to give buffs so why should docs be any different and unfortunately we have children who think it is neat to pull pets and lag it down for the fun of it and I am not flaming our teenage population cause half of those "children" are adults that are a##holes too. If you aren't there to catch a shuttle, meet a group to catch a shuttle or landing then you should not be just stadning around spamming.
Thanks for listening.
The_Real_Raptor
Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:01 pm
#16
/bow, thank you for the stars. I just want to thank my parents, my wife, the producer, the director, and all the little people who made it possible. 
I also think they should reduce the effective hearing range of talking and yelling, and further reduce itbyintervening structures. This would also help the chat lag (although notgraphical lag). I can hear cantina chatter inside the Mos Eisley starport (that's 2 cantina walls, 3 starport walls, 100m of air, and 2 intervening buildings). In RL, I can't hear talking on my front porch while in the den, even though I am physically 15 feet from the conversation.
Scythykins
Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:03 pm
#17
tsconver wrote:
Force the DOcs to move outside to buff, maybe even a 50 meter radius or better yet force them to buff in the med center if one is in the town, that is what they are for. I am sorry I have never seen a doc standing at my local bus stop giving flu shots and I know Luke never stopped off at the local SP to get a buff before fighting Vader.
Put some realism back. Force docs to either go outside city limtis and use a droid or go to the med centers to buff, make spammers use the auction channel, i know I use it if I want to buy something if I do not need anything I should not have to put up with endless spam. Maybe set up a daily email that sends out all auctions that a vendor can send txt to orbetter yet the SOE website we do have one we are all using it now to read this.
God forbid, medics and doctors in a Medicenter? Oh my stars and garters, Mildred, whatever will we do?!? /sarcasm
I am very happy to see the constructive thoughts brought forward in this thread, it is definately deserving of its own thread. One poster complained about the lag from other characters spamming. After consulting my options menu, it is indeed possible to turn off the chat bubbles entirely, from those except those in your guild/group, and a couple other options. This should help your lag problem if you turn it off when you log or zone in/out, then turn it back on at your convenience. The main source of lag in places such as Cnet and the MO as I see it are the near-constant duels, the NPC slayings, etc. I'm pretty sure the combat animations take up more of your RAM than a textbox. I'm not gonna say buy more ram, I just put a new gig stick in mine and I still grind a little loading. C'est la vie.
I'm gonna start another thread in another forum about some of the other issues...this one got me thinking.
The_Real_Raptor
Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:16 pm
#18
I haven't used chat bubbles since I entered Anchorhead for the first time back in Oct 2003. I have my visual settings so low, I have to be within 10m of a toon to see what kind ofarmor he/she is wearing. I step out of the starport, and I lock up for 2-3 minutes while it draws the 20 people in line for a buff. Stick these people in a building, create some way for them to get on a waiting list (since med center layouts do not promote effecient lines), and get them away from the starport. Forbid non-droid pets from entering cities (since droids are needed for crafting starships, static NPC stations only work for Tier 1 chassis'). And create a useable, effective system of advertising for non-Business people who want to sell items worth more than 6K without verbal spam (auction tab is nice, and thank you to people who use this, I tend to reward them by stopping at their shops first).
Amsaran
Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:49 pm
#19
The_Real_Raptor wrote:/bow, thank you for the stars. I just want to thank my parents, my wife, the producer, the director, and all the little people who made it possible.I also think they should reduce the effective hearing range of talking and yelling, and further reduce it by intervening structures. This would also help the chat lag (although not graphical lag). I can hear cantina chatter inside the Mos Eisley starport (that's 2 cantina walls, 3 starport walls, 100m of air, and 2 intervening buildings). In RL, I can't hear talking on my front porch while in the den, even though I am physically 15 feet from the conversation.
I agree with you my friend. That is a very good suggestion. If spamming is to continue--which undoubtly it will--a screen should be put in place so you can only hear or see the chatter in the Spatial Text if within 10m of the target.
Amsaran
Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:50 pm
#20
The_Real_Raptor wrote:/bow, thank you for the stars. I just want to thank my parents, my wife, the producer, the director, and all the little people who made it possible.I also think they should reduce the effective hearing range of talking and yelling, and further reduce it by intervening structures. This would also help the chat lag (although not graphical lag). I can hear cantina chatter inside the Mos Eisley starport (that's 2 cantina walls, 3 starport walls, 100m of air, and 2 intervening buildings). In RL, I can't hear talking on my front porch while in the den, even though I am physically 15 feet from the conversation.
I agree with you my friend. That is a very good suggestion. If spamming is to continue--which undoubtly it will--a screen should be put in place so you can only hear or see the chatter in the Spatial Text if within 10m of the target.
Jagged-F3l
Tue Jan 25, 2005 6:49 pm
#21
OmaeVogoo wrote:
have more live events, thatll clear them out, or at least some
OH MAN! I loved watching big spiders come into town, head straight for the starport and take out any AFK'er. It was quick, it was elegant, I laughed, and when I realized the AFK'ers were all dead, I turned and ran my (*#&$ off.
Arhtas
Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:31 pm
#22
I don't mind spamers if there ad is about 30 or more secs apart or useing a droid but if they spam about every 10 secs and are in teh dant MO and there a DJK 500m you can guess whats going to happen next
blondie34
Wed Jan 26, 2005 12:33 am
#23
Spamers dont really bother me that much. (If they do for some reason then I just do /addignore). 
tsconver
Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:05 am
#24
I'm gonna start another thread in another forum about some of the other issues...this one got me thinking.
Hey post a link for us.
Thanks
Scythykins
Wed Jan 26, 2005 2:19 pm
#25
Arhtas wrote:
I don't mind spamers if there ad is about 30 or more secs apart or useing a droid but if they spam about every 10 secs and are in teh dant MO and there a DJK 500m you can guess whats going to happen next
Griefing? That's as close to an exact definition of it I can find. Be constructive, don't just hurt another player.
As to the other thread, it's becoming a rather long long thread :-p I was at work when I started it, but after a couple IE crashes I decided to save it till I got home...still writing. I usually don't indulge myself in off the cuff comments, I like to think my way through it if I want to get my point across.
As far as the straight lines in a medicenter problem goes...how about going back to the old system. "buffing for x amount, pst to get into line" Doc keeps track of line. I don't know why it ever changed...having a line of toons is just asking for people to lose places and such.
Message Edited by Scythykins on 01-26-2005 01:21 PM
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