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Thread: We need a Category Revamp NOW!!!

FishyDude
Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:39 pm
#14

I always wondered what the armor powerup catagory was used for on the bazaar.



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Elitesolider
Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:48 am
#15




/agree


I'd like to comment that it's a major flaw in the game. You have a price cap of what, 6,000 credits. Majority of the goods are all junk that nobody really wants to buy. Maybe a reason why we don't have planet to planet trading is because of the bazaar for starters -- their could be other reasons -- i know their are people who wanted to be smugglers/space transporters/delivery boys. What's the point in having it when you can just sell goods at the prices you want on your own vendor. The bazaar is a tool of the past. Let's get rid of it and improve the game so people can conduct business like businessmen.


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MeciniaLua
Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:09 am
#16

Nice break down, very nice



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pircio
Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:54 am
#17

/agree


categories totally blow, there are WAY too many things that fall into misc... and factory crates should NOT be a category, it should be a toggle option like "include factory crated items in the search"


and i also personally feel we shouldnt have to resort to travel packs with fancy colors in the right spot being our "headings" so to speak. there should be a "general information" box where we can put up notes, etc to our customers



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IntoTheGarbage
Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:32 pm
#18

/agree


Good Point.



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Tirranus
Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:27 pm
#19




Elitesoldier wrote:
The bazaar is a tool of the past. Let's get rid of it and improve the game so people can conduct business like businessmen.



Way back when, the Bazaar was called the Commodities Market. If that's what it stayed (in name and function) then it would have been(and still could be) great. The glactic flea market thing isn't a bad idea (I'd really hate going from vendor to vendor in seach of blue rug sections 3, 6, and 7) it is really not functional on the level of being (and shouldn't be) the one-stop shop for everything.




pircio wrote:
and i also personally feel we shouldnt have to resort to travel packs with fancy colors in the right spot being our "headings" so to speak. there should be a "general information" box where we can put up notes, etc to our customers



If categories really worked, we wouldn't need them.


For those interested, now that they are backing off the idea and actually considering doing this the right way as opposed to the simple-but-deadly way, I have a thread up about what I think can be improved with the vendor system. Check it out.




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Kyorlana
Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:35 pm
#20

I agree that a rehaul of the category system is LONG overdue. Some things don't even make sense where they currently are and the biggest annoyance has to be factory crates!

The sooner this is done the better!

Milgram
Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:50 am
#21

But if there is a revamp, how am i going to find my armor power ups, and Armor Attatchments (so convinently listed under clothing attatchments).




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Dewylo
Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:22 am
#22

I would just like to see the category on the item whe I examine it. I have no idea if certain paintings will be in the furniture category or the Misc items category.I am very excited to hear that the devs are looking into the vendor system. There are many things that can be done, and this will be fun to see the changes.






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dalbok
Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:11 pm
#23

I second that!!!!




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Puertoriqueno
Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:23 pm
#24

Even getting down to brass tacks, the "general item" category is far too bloated to make it useful. Too many items are lumped into this category, whereas there are other categories that are completely irrelevant (Glasses, entities, armor upgrades, etc). Weapon and Resource searches are an excercise in patience.


We need better, more narrow categories and a way to search them.




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Kyorlana
Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:47 am
#25



Tirranus wrote:
My Plan for a Revamp:
Added Categories
Removed Categories
Split Up or Repurposed Categories
Moved Categories
Armor Powerup (No items exist)
Building (No items exist)
Clothing:
- Cape (No items exist)
- Eyewear (No-trade items only)
- Misc Clothing (No items exist)
- Wearable Container (Moved to Clothing)
Component:
- Clothing Component (Make all clothing components actually go here)
- Community Crafting Component (Make all loot kit parts actually go here)
- Electronics Component (Move these to the type of component they are used for, i.e. structure, droid)
- Tissue Component (Move these to the type of component they are used for, i.e. clothing, food)
Consumables:
- Food (Moved from Misc, move spice to Spice)
- Drink (Moved from Misc, move spice to Spice)
- Pet Food
- Spice
Data:
- Rename Data to Waypoint
Entity (No items exist)
Installation (No items exist)
Furniture:
- Civic (i.e. Statues, fountains, etc.)
- Community Crafting Project (Moved from Misc - Make all comleted loot kits actually go here)
- Containers
- Decorations (i.e. Loudspeakers, birdcages, etc)
- Lighting
- Paintings
- Tables
- Terminals
- Msic (i.e. Beds, stuff that doesn't fit elsewhere but there's not enough of for its own category)
Misc:
- Armor Attachment (Make all Armor Attachments actually go here)
- Chemical (No items exist)
- Clothing Attachment - Breakout
- Community Crafting Project (Moved to furniture)
- Container (Move furniture to furniture, others to wearable containers)
- Crystal (Duplicate - exists in Components)
- Datadiscs
- Drink (Move spice to Spice category)
- Electronics (No items exist)
- Factory Crate (Move to actual categories of the contents)
- Fireworks
- Firework Show (Contents moved to Fireworks)
- Fishing Supplies
- Fishing Bait (Contents moved to Fishing Supplies)
- Fishing Pole (Contents moved to Fishing Supplies)
- Flora (No items exist)
- Food (Moved to Consumables)
- Furniture (Created a new Furniture main category)
- Generic Item (See Below)
- Item (Move temporary enhancers to Pharmacutical, other stuff to appropriate categories)
- Locked Containers
- Pet Medicine (Moved to Pharmacutical)
- Pharmacutical (Created a new Pharmacutical main category)
- Schematics
- Sign (No items exist)
- Traps (Rename to Scout Gear, add camo kits)
Pharmacutical:
- Buffpacks
- Medpacks
- Stimpacks
- Temporary Enhancements (or whatever the official name for them is)
- Pet Medicine (Moved from Misc)
Resources:
- Energy (Gas) (Move into Gas)
- Energy (Liquid) (Moved to Petrochem Fuel)
- Energy (Radioactive) (Rename to Radioactive)
- Energy (Solid) (Moved to Petrochem Fuel)
- Flora
- Gemstone
- Inorganic Chemical (Rename to Chemical)
- Inorganic Gas (Rename to Gas)
- Inorganic Mineral (Broken up)
- Metal
- Ore
- Organic Food (Rename to Food, move fungi into Flora)
- Organic Hide (Rename to Hide)
- Organic Structural (Rename to Bone, move wood into Flora)
- Petrochem Fuel
- Resource Container (Rename to Rare or something)

Current Stuff in Misc Items:
Looted furniture (Furniture - Decorations)
Junk items (Furniture - Decorations)
Camo kits (Misc - Scout Gear)
Chance cubes (Leave here)
Draft schematics (Misc - Schematics)
Schematics (Misc - Schematics)
Loot kit parts (Components - Community Crafting Components)
Loot kits completed (Furniture - Community Crafting Project)
Faction message fragments (Misc - Datadiscs)
Live Samples (Mis-categorized, fix)
Streetlamps (Furniture - Lighting)
Jawa Beads (Jewlery - Necklaces)
Statues (Furniture - Civic)
Locked containers (Misc - Locked Containers)
Who knows what else?





This deserves a bump given the changes on test right now.

pircio
Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:43 am
#26

nice work... i like it, and we still need a category revamp



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