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Thread: no more anti decay kits ! remove or fix them ! PLZ

Beliblisrevenge
Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:31 am
#1

why we become such a economy killer item ?

first you will get all the uber dot qweapons otu of the game and now you givr us a economy / balance killer like this ?

Phaelyn
Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:40 am
#2






Beliblisrevenge wrote:
why we become such a economy killer item ?

first you will get all the uber dot qweapons otu of the game and now you givr us a economy / balance killer like this ?







This isn't as bad as you may think it to be. With the CURB, there will be new weapons around, new armors and a more balanced playing field, making there no such thing as the BEST all around armor or the BEST all around weapon. People will need multiple weapons (So they can equip the right weapon for the right need) and multiple armor types (To offset when people switch weapons) - They won't be able to exist with just ONE type of anything.


Not to mention, you only mention the anti-decay kit. Why not argue against the No Power Harvester kit? That will have some far reaching ramifications for the few who manage to get ahold of more than one. But even then, still not an economy breaker.



Phael'yn Maxlord
- I support Common Sense - Too bad it's in short supply.

Quote that sums up the current, flawed direction of SWG:
"No, I do everything solo and I see no reason why I should need anyone else"

A way to bring Combatant and Crafter together.
Sapphire47
Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:45 am
#3

on Farstar there is an exceptional t-21, now with anti-decay, pupped (about 2.8K maxdam), and its owner is camping nyax when he's online, sometimes in afk even. So long for fair play and equal chances..



Zafir Vilya
Beliblisrevenge
Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:50 am
#4

no more afk players too! ( this is one of the stupiesd things i ever seen in an mmorpg...)

but i hope they will no mor economy killeritems give tu us...( nopower harvester , dozends of 30k stacks and people dont need ressoruces next time...and so on...)
Kev0r
Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:40 am
#5

To give you guys an idea of how much these things are trading for on Farstar, 1 kit goes for the equivalent of about 4-5 premium pearls; 15 million. Check our trade forums, the demand for them is incredible. This morning there are about 5 or 6 selling threads and 5 or 6 buying threads!


Farstar does have a big problem with AFK campers and kill stealers. My secondary job after doc is a low level loot salesman (I make up picture kits, sell on rare furniture, rare colour crystals etc). But even some of my favourite meatlump/swooper spawns are being camped 24/7 by guys who don't even "play" the game. I report every single one, knowing that the CSRs can do nothing about it; only vainly hoping that the more "please help" tickets they get about this, the more it comes up as an issue at their team meetings. This kind of item will only make things worse.


I'm keeping my ADK for a bit to see what happens, but probably won't use it. But one of the most infamous BHs on Farstar has a 1200 damage Power Hammer, and has been the bane of 90% of the jedi population for months. We're talking 2 hits and dead here.....The jedi have all patiently been waiting for this ungodly hammer to keel over and die; now that's never going to happen.


This kit has caused far too many problems to remain in game. Having an item that never dies is outside of the "rules" one would expect in a game of this nature.



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Beliblisrevenge
Fri Feb 11, 2005 3:25 am
#6

these kits are terrible really...now every one owns all , steals kills....loots....

my godness soe....such a good publish but these kits a REALY BIG ?§&" !
bluejanus
Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:14 am
#7

I suppose it's grim, but the anti-decay kits allow the rest of the server to lament about products that never decay, i.e. architect products.





Isander Aperin - Kettemoor Master Architect (home: Serenity, Naboo)
Structures vendor in the HorkCo Shop near Coronet, Corellia (CLOSED)
Structures vendors in the Mos Mesric Mall near Mos Espa, Tatooine (CLOSED)
Structures, jedi kit, crafting station and resource vendors in Serenity near Kaadara, Naboo (CLOSED)
bluejanus
Fri Feb 11, 2005 7:56 am
#8

One my ex-mws friends was asking how the adk would apply to PSGs. Would the PSG never wear out then?





Isander Aperin - Kettemoor Master Architect (home: Serenity, Naboo)
Structures vendor in the HorkCo Shop near Coronet, Corellia (CLOSED)
Structures vendors in the Mos Mesric Mall near Mos Espa, Tatooine (CLOSED)
Structures, jedi kit, crafting station and resource vendors in Serenity near Kaadara, Naboo (CLOSED)
Jagged-F3l
Fri Feb 11, 2005 11:13 am
#9






Beliblisrevenge wrote:
why we become such a economy killer item ?

first you will get all the uber dot qweapons otu of the game and now you givr us a economy / balance killer like this ?








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There aren't going to be as many anti-decay kits as you think. People are blowing this way out of proportion. First, only people who have an account older than 365 days old will be able to obtain one. Second, people that take one as a reward can only ever receive one. Third, not everyone is going to take one as a reward. Some players will actually take one of the other prizes, like the cool "furniture" or the toys.




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Beliblisrevenge
Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:07 pm
#10

seems that pve and pvp is dead until the combat revamp...because of these fine kits...
Jittaba
Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:16 pm
#11


Beliblisrevenge wrote:
seems that pve and pvp is dead until the combat revamp...because of these fine kits...


Yep! Plain and simple. I can't understand the intention of the devs, implentig this kits, or preciser, weapons/ls being undecayable. I mean, it's great if I have a shirt/pants/armorpiece with great attachments in it like +25 speed or so, so they will never decay, like those "pre-nerf" stuffs. But seriously, weapons and ls, which are being used in combat, this is completly senseless.



Sapphire47 wrote:
and its owner is camping [put a place in there] when he's online, sometimes in afk even. So long for fair play and equal chances..


That's another argument against the ADK's for me! I mean I (am) was able to oragnise a party and outdamage a perma camper, but now that's impossible. So long for fair play and equal chances... And please, don't somebody tell me he / she can with regular stuff or enhanced ones. There's no way to outdamage exeptional/legendary damage-looted-weapon-user.

Message Edited by Jittaba on 02-11-2005 12:22 AM

RelicOMO
Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:28 pm
#12






Phaelyn wrote:

This isn't as bad as you may think it to be. With the CURB, there will be new weapons around, new armors and a more balanced playing field, making there no such thing as the BEST all around armor or the BEST all around weapon. People will need multiple weapons (So they can equip the right weapon for the right need) and multiple armor types (To offset when people switch weapons) - They won't be able to exist with just ONE type of anything.







You have remarkable faith in the power of a developer team and a hundred or so testers to overcome the ingenuity of thousands of online players.


There's no multiplayer game or system ever produced that doesn't have one or two BEST combinations. The CU will be no different. There will still be one or two BEST combinations, best weapons, best armour - they'll be different from what we have now, but they'll be there.
Jittaba
Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:43 pm
#13

Besides that I've watched since yesterday a few headless chicken runnin' around and screaming "I pWn j00 all" (well, a bit overdone, but you can imagine what I mean) and "killsteal" (whatever it is, it doesn't exist, but is also not fair) everything they got.

Great, huh?
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