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Thread: Center of Being Test

Maztag
Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:58 pm
#1




Ok so this is basicly my view on this brawler skill and the testing in the bottom paragraph. I'm only posting it because this forum hasn't seen many new posts so I thoughtI'd contribute.Center of Being is, I think working much better then Berserk. With CoB you can still use specials and it increases your defenseby a very noticable amount.Centerof Being also allows you to preformother things that are not nesscerly combat related.However Berserk will not allow you to preform specials but it does increase your damage output. Thats pretty much useless after you get your up to your second skill box in brawler because by then your specials do more damage then Berserk. The only other time Berserk is useful is if you load really slowafter shuttle and are overt, that way it allows you to do more damage then normal.You also can't sit when Berserk, which can be a pain. Berserk could be easily fixed if they allowed you to do the things you can do when you have CoB on, such as preform specials and the like.



I've actuly heard some people say that CoB is useless which isI belivenot the case. I conducted a test with 1 of my freinds, his skills were Master Fencer/Master Doctor/4-0-0-0 in Heighten senses/4-4-0-0 in Enhanced Reflexs and 0-0-4-2 in Combat Prowess. We did 20 duels, 10 with him using CoB and 10 with him not using it, also no SEAs or food was used.No states were applied andno specials were used, allattacks were the standered auto-attack.I my self am Master Pikeman/Master brawler and speed cap with the rest of my points in various defense. In the first 10 duels with him not using CoB he dodged roughly 37% of my attacks. In the latter 10 of the duels he dodged roughly 48% of my attacks. A 11% increase in his dodging. To me thats a very high number, because he is not at all at the dodge cap. There is a chance this could be a completly random increase in his dodging. Anyway just our results on the use of CoB.


Message Edited by Maztag on 03-14-2005 05:04 PM



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Warrior03
Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:35 pm
#2

Centre of being worth using as a TKM?



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I8TheWorm
Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:44 am
#3



Maztag wrote:
Ok so this is basicly my view on this brawler skill and the testing in the bottom paragraph. I'm only posting it because this forum hasn't seen many new posts so I thought I'd contribute. Center of Being is, I think working much better then Berserk. With CoB you can still use specials and it increases your defense by a very noticable amount. Center of Being also allows you to preform other things that are not nesscerly combat related. However Berserk will not allow you to preform specials but it does increase your damage output. Thats pretty much useless after you get your up to your second skill box in brawler because by then your specials do more damage then Berserk. The only other time Berserk is useful is if you load really slow after shuttle and are overt, that way it allows you to do more damage then normal. You also can't sit when Berserk, which can be a pain. Berserk could be easily fixed if they allowed you to do the things you can do when you have CoB on, such as preform specials and the like.
I've actuly heard some people say that CoB is useless which is I belive not the case. I conducted a test with 1 of my freinds, his skills were Master Fencer/Master Doctor/4-0-0-0 in Heighten senses/4-4-0-0 in Enhanced Reflexs and 0-0-4-2 in Combat Prowess. We did 20 duels, 10 with him using CoB and 10 with him not using it, also no SEAs or food was used. No states were applied and no specials were used, all attacks were the standered auto-attack. I my self am Master Pikeman/Master brawler and speed cap with the rest of my points in various defense. In the first 10 duels with him not using CoB he dodged roughly 37% of my attacks. In the latter 10 of the duels he dodged roughly 48% of my attacks. A 11% increase in his dodging. To me thats a very high number, because he is not at all at the dodge cap. There is a chance this could be a completly random increase in his dodging. Anyway just our results on the use of CoB.

Message Edited by Maztag on 03-14-2005 05:04 PM






FWIW, my own personal test happened on my first trip to the geo caves the other night. I typically have my CoB running in a macro, but I'd forgotten to start it.

So without CoB - /heal self
with CoB - no need to /heal self

How's that for quantitative analysis?



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Jasef
Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:51 am
#4

Absolutely it works.



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I8TheWorm
Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:24 am
#5



Warrior03 wrote:
Centre of being worth using as a TKM?





I would think so, but I'm not a TKM so I really couldn't say. However, anytime you have a chance to increase your defs I would jump on it like a dog on a bone.



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Maztag
Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:36 pm
#6






Warrior03 wrote:

Centre of being worth using as a TKM?






its worthing using as ANY melee prof



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antares_Kauri
Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:40 am
#7

Though defensive acuity is not as effective as block/counter/dodge is, so the increase in defenses is minimal at best, unnoticeable at worst.

antares



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Mapai
Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:49 pm
#8






Maztag wrote:





Warrior03 wrote:

Centre of being worth using as a TKM?






its worthing using as ANY melee prof






/agree



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