Brawler Archive
Thread: DBing a Dead Horse or Don't bring a Brawler to a Marksman fight
As a professional in the game industry, I just had to get something off my chest. When the imbalance between melee and ranged classes in PvP was first brought up the often quoted reply was "Don't bring a knife toa gun fight". This rubbed me wrong, but it wasn't until recently that I fully realized why.
If this is truely your stance, then don't design a class whose sole purpose is to wield a knife if you're making a game that is meant to be a gun fight. What irks me the most about the statement is that you insulting your players by blaming them for your design flaw. "Don't be so stupid as to play the combat class we designed for you and expect it to be competitive". The flaw is not in the players, it's in the design.
Ok, I'm done.
You're absolutely, 100% correct.
In EverQuest, Warriors won PvP battles plenty of times because at high level they had such high resist to spells, they could just keep running towards the caster and eventually get them, and they had armor with dispells on them and such.
There is NOTHING like that in Star Wars Galaxies.
However, in history there are some exceptions.
The Fuzzies broke a British Battle Square in the Sudan in the mid to late 80's. Thay did this PREDOMINATELY with swords, shields and spears against the Martini Henry and professional soldiers. (Rudyard Kipling wrote a poem about them called "Fuzzy Wuzzy")
I have no idea why the brawler class even exists. Maybe it's for training future Jedi's?
No idea, but to me it also seems awful silly to put a melee class of combatant into a game who's predominate combat range takes place at 32 to 64 meters.
FUZZY WUZZY
We've fought with many men acrost the seas,
An' some of 'em was brave an' some was not:
The Paythan an' the Zulu an' Burmese;
But the Fuzzy was the finest o' the lot.
We never got a ha'porth's change of 'im:
'E squatted in the scrub an' 'ocked our 'orses,
'E cut our sentries up at Suakim,
An' 'e played the cat an' banjo with our forces.
So 'ere's to you, Fuzzy-Wuzzy, at your 'ome in the Soudan;
You're a pore benighted 'eathen but a first-class fightin' man;
We gives you your certificate, an' if you want it signed
We'll come an' 'ave a romp with you whenever you're inclined.
We took our chanst among the Khyber 'ills,
The Boers knocked us silly at a mile,
The Burman give us Irriwaddy chills,
An' a Zulu impi dished us up in style:
But all we ever got from such as they
Was pop to what the Fuzzy made us swaller;
We 'eld our bloomin' own, the papers say,
But man for man the Fuzzy knocked us 'oller.
Then 'ere's to you, Fuzzy-Wuzzy, an' the missis and the kid;
Our orders was to break you, an' of course we went an' did.
We sloshed you with Martinis, an' it wasn't 'ardly fair;
But for all the odds agin' you, Fuzzy-Wuz, you broke the square.
'E 'asn't got no papers of 'is own,
'E 'asn't got no medals nor rewards,
So we must certify the skill 'e's shown
In usin' of 'is long two-'anded swords:
When 'e's 'oppin' in an' out among the bush
With 'is coffin-'eaded shield an' shovel-spear,
An 'appy day with Fuzzy on the rush
Will last an 'ealthy Tommy for a year.
So 'ere's to you, Fuzzy-Wuzzy, an' your friends which are no more,
If we 'adn't lost some messmates we would 'elp you to deplore.
But give an' take's the gospel, an' we'll call the bargain fair,
For if you 'ave lost more than us, you crumpled up the square!
'E rushes at the smoke when we let drive,
An', before we know, 'e's 'ackin' at our 'ead;
'E's all 'ot sand an' ginger when alive,
An' 'e's generally shammin' when 'e's dead.
'E's a daisy, 'e's a ducky, 'e's a lamb!
'E's a injia-rubber idiot on the spree,
'E's the on'y thing that doesn't give a **edit**
For a Regiment o' British Infantree!
So 'ere's to you, Fuzzy-Wuzzy, at your 'ome in the Soudan;
You're a pore benighted 'eathen but a first-class fightin' man;
An' 'ere's to you, Fuzzy-Wuzzy, with your 'ayrick 'ead of 'air --
You big black boundin' beggar -- for you broke a British square!
DarksideBilly wrote:
I am quite happy with the recent changes with the Brawler profession and doing quite well. I still will not enter into a PvP fight because it is suicide, unless I have my pets. I have three factional pets (commandos) and they do all the shooting for me in PvP, and I only use the pets when I do PvP. I shout attack and run out of range until the dust settles and my boys usually win. It's cheap, but obviously what the Devs intended.
C'mon, where's the fun in that.