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Thread: Fencer or Swordsman?

Kenshin345
Sat Aug 09, 2003 9:07 pm
#1

Whats the difference? Is it that fencer is faster but doesnt do as much damage, and swordsman is slower but does more?I can't decide which to be. Thanks for the help!
FishOfDeath
Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:11 pm
#2

I just recently got master brawlerand now I am planning on going down one of the sword tree's. But I am having tons of trouble deciding if I should go Fencer or Swordsman. And advice on the pro's and con's of each would b great. Also I dont pvp much so this would be mainly a PvE character. Thanks a Bunch


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Onabosteelhands
Mon Oct 20, 2003 6:17 pm
#3

Ok..Some say Fencer because its much faster..the people who usualy say fencer r impatient anyways...But if ur patient and want to hit uber big go swordsman...i am a swordsman (got a PH 3.7 speed) and i hit lairs for 12k animals for 4k..thats every 4 seconds (rounded) or would u rather be a fencer hitting 500 tops every 2 seconds? you ccan most definetly make the decision..just remeber..Fencers are duelists..Swordsman kill the duelists.



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DukeHondo
Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:41 pm
#4

In the format you asked. (Note no values include Brawler tree at all)


Fencer


Pros:
Health Attacks, Health Bleeds, Fast Attacks, Dizzy(very very good dizzy), can hit all pools at once(Scatter hits), High Defenses
Cons:
Health is easily healed, Not super high damaging, No knockdown(Unless you are Master Brawler, Lunge2 = KD)
StatisticsLive Servers)
24 Melee Defense, 19 Ranged Defense, 12 Melee Toughness, 25 Dodge, 20 Defense vs Blind, 20 Defense vs Dizzy, 20 Defense vs Intimidate, 40 Defense vs Knockdown, 40 Defense vs Posture Change, 60 Accuracy
StatisticsTest Servers)
74 Melee Defense, 69 Ranged Defense, 12 Melee Toughness, 105 Dodge, 40 Defense vs Blind, 40 Defense vs Dizzy, 20 Defense vs Intimidate, 50 Defense vs Knockdown, 50 Defense vs Posture Change, 100 Accuracy


Swordsman


Pros:
Mind Attacks, Mind Bleeds, Huge Damage, Area attacks, Mind is nearly unhealable(Zabrak ability Equilibrium)
Cons:
No knockdown(Unless you are Master Brawler, Lunge2 = KD), Slow Attack Rate(Well with 2HCS it's pretty okay.. 2.6 speed on mine, and it isnt speed sliced.. may be 2.8), All 5 area attacks are posture downs, Very low defenses.
StatisticsLive Servers)
20 Melee Defense, 15 Ranged Defense, 18 Melee Toughness, 25 Counterattack, 20 Defense vs Dizzy, 20 Defense vs Intimidate,25 Defense vs Knockdown, 10 Defense vs Posture Change, 30 Defense vs Stun,? Accuracy
StatisticsTest Servers)
20 Melee Defense, 15 Ranged Defense,23 Melee Toughness,100 Counterattack, 20 Defense vs Dizzy, 20 Defense vs Intimidate,25 Defense vs Knockdown, 10 Defense vs Posture Change, 50 Defense vs Stun,80 Accuracy




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DukeHondo
Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:43 pm
#5

Sorry.. it jumbled it




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Guddy
Tue Oct 21, 2003 4:37 am
#6

Ok..Some or would u rather be a fencer hitting 500 tops every 2 seconds?


thats odd im a master fencer and i hit for around 2000-3000 every 1.0 secs





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ShouldStudy
Tue Oct 21, 2003 11:49 am
#7

I am master brawler and fencer 1 4 1 2 i can tell you this, fencers are slightly better in pvp however swordman are slightlybetter in pve.The difference is not that big though i admit that there (swordmant) swords look cooler.

DukeHondo
Tue Oct 21, 2003 5:35 pm
#8

Actually, Swordsman is better in PVP..


Why?


Mind damage.. Mind Bleed.. That mind bleed is so heavy damaging with a power hammer it'll one hit most people


Though I'm probably dropping it and going TKA/Fencer/Brawler instead.. better defenses.. And I really miss using a gaderiffi baton as master fencer lol




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Guddy
Wed Oct 22, 2003 3:24 am
#9

pvp really depends on the speed of the person controlling the character im a master fencer and hav never lost to a master swordsman in pvp.



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DukeHondo
Wed Oct 22, 2003 8:15 am
#10

Then the master swordsman has never landed a mindhit2 on ya.. =)



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Guddy
Wed Oct 22, 2003 9:02 am
#11

actually they have and it took me 15 mins to get it off me hehe still won duel 100% wounded my focus pool aswell haha



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SinnAsyr
Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:49 pm
#12

With Swordsman you get to hit stuff with a BIG hammer



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Onabosteelhands
Thu Oct 23, 2003 12:43 am
#13

I admite wutever server u r on because the Master Swordsman is definetly not a good one then...they should all kno that u first Posture change then dizzy then mind bleed 2 then hit ur mind and ur down...


I've killed master TKA because they missed me twice and a almost master Fencer..they just needed the AP points...so the truth is..since Mindhit is most definetly unhealable we are the best PVP and PVE if u use good tactics...Ive seen 2handed swords so fast...below 2 seconds likje 1.7 on a curved sword..hahah no joke either




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