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Thread: Discussion of Top Brawler Issues
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Isnelav
Sun Feb 08, 2004 2:21 pm
#53
heres my say.
i think brawler is fine as it is just the kiting problems people have said before lunge2 helps alot but still hard to catch up if they already have distance on you maybe a slight speed increase for the melee profs(tkm and fencer especially) as i see it you could run raster holding a short sword or nothing. a fighter trains his body for power and doesn't rely on his trigger finger so he would be in better physical shape in theory or even a skill mod for a short burst run say 5 seconds at the expense of action every 30 secondsjust to help catch the kiters.
i see people are saying that gloves and brass knuckles are not unarmed my views on unarmed would be if u was actually holding something like a sword well heres my argument, would you say that boxing is an unarmed or one-handedprofession like it was sugested before?
i found an easy way to get unarmed 4 was to get a VK speed sliced, even though you lose the power you still get the speed so instead of hitting every4-6 seconds your hitting every second helps out alot
mpsaro
Sat Feb 14, 2004 5:53 am
#54
Mastered brawler a few weeks ago and in truth the only skills that have made my toolbar are warcry2 (which yes, does take far too much HAM for a special move that DOESNT but SHOULD stick first time everytime) and lunge2.
We should receive higher defensive mods (ranged, melee, toughness) or at least double the amount of what is given in the master box.
Use of specials in beserk2 would be a nice addition.(afterall it does go for 60 secs, and in 60 seconds we want to be able to kill our opponent, not just swing at them for double the amount of the damage listed on our weapons)
IF we could use specials in berserk2 it would certainly see a lot of us doing noticable damage instead of "You hit insert-name-of-opponent-wearing-comparmour-with-insane-kinetic-resists for 200dmg with battling bantha" or whatever it's called. Perhaps add a 3x mod to damage for beserk2?
With more and more people wearing armour with insane resists, i'd also like to point out that if i duel someone wearing this type of armour, i can knock them down with lunge2, delay them for 20 secs and then they may as well go get a drink, feeling safe with the knowledge that they're almost invulnerable to any dmg i choose to dish out to them in that time.
I am master tkm as well so believe me when i say that this is a common occurrence.
If i warcry2 someone for 20 secs and successfully knock them down and perhaps dizzy them too, they should be at my complete mercy.
But no, instead what usually happens is that they start laughing at me and when my 20 secs is up they burst run and headshot me....i think a stun attack for Brawlers would be appropiate, given that armoursmiths are making better armour every week. (and the highest resists i've seen on comp for stun are 37%)
Terrain negotiation also wouldn't go amiss. When i think Brawler, i think of someone who would be quick on their feet, and lets face it, not everyone wants to go and do novice scout to be able to climb hills.
Warcry2 should literally freeze your opponent in their tracks - they shouldnt be able to move for 20 seconds.
A +x dodge(s) somewhere along the line wouldnt go amiss either, it would certainly be a welcome addition to the master brawler box in my opinion.
All in all, after using up an insane amount of skill points for just 2 specials,(well it was actually 3 specials when i was fencer, 1handedlunge2...) i'm pretty disappointed thus far with my Master Brawler title. It was faaaar too much work for very little benefit.
We should receive higher defensive mods (ranged, melee, toughness) or at least double the amount of what is given in the master box.
Use of specials in beserk2 would be a nice addition.(afterall it does go for 60 secs, and in 60 seconds we want to be able to kill our opponent, not just swing at them for double the amount of the damage listed on our weapons)
IF we could use specials in berserk2 it would certainly see a lot of us doing noticable damage instead of "You hit insert-name-of-opponent-wearing-comparmour-with-insane-kinetic-resists for 200dmg with battling bantha" or whatever it's called. Perhaps add a 3x mod to damage for beserk2?
With more and more people wearing armour with insane resists, i'd also like to point out that if i duel someone wearing this type of armour, i can knock them down with lunge2, delay them for 20 secs and then they may as well go get a drink, feeling safe with the knowledge that they're almost invulnerable to any dmg i choose to dish out to them in that time.
I am master tkm as well so believe me when i say that this is a common occurrence.
If i warcry2 someone for 20 secs and successfully knock them down and perhaps dizzy them too, they should be at my complete mercy.
But no, instead what usually happens is that they start laughing at me and when my 20 secs is up they burst run and headshot me....i think a stun attack for Brawlers would be appropiate, given that armoursmiths are making better armour every week. (and the highest resists i've seen on comp for stun are 37%)
Terrain negotiation also wouldn't go amiss. When i think Brawler, i think of someone who would be quick on their feet, and lets face it, not everyone wants to go and do novice scout to be able to climb hills.
Warcry2 should literally freeze your opponent in their tracks - they shouldnt be able to move for 20 seconds.
A +x dodge(s) somewhere along the line wouldnt go amiss either, it would certainly be a welcome addition to the master brawler box in my opinion.
All in all, after using up an insane amount of skill points for just 2 specials,(well it was actually 3 specials when i was fencer, 1handedlunge2...) i'm pretty disappointed thus far with my Master Brawler title. It was faaaar too much work for very little benefit.
SpeedMaster1300
Sat Feb 14, 2004 4:36 pm
#55
i think leveling in unarmed deserves a weapon to help u reach novice or whatever u r going for, i know ppl use VK's even tho they are not qualified but i think it would be nice for newbs to have help raising in that iwth a new weapon that comes iwth like unarmed 2 or something maybe.... a weapon like brassknuckles, or something of that sort
ThotoOrifa
Tue Feb 24, 2004 4:17 pm
#56
whatever you do PLEASE DO NOT nerf warcry, PLEASE im begging you. NOTHING deserves to be nerfed. NOTHING. Not even combat medic. but pease, DO NOT NERF WARCRY, im BEGGING YOU. Brawler is possibly the hardest combat class to grind, and now there will be no reward for it. Please leave it be, you can lower the chance if it connecting, you can shorten the range, whatever, just dont do what your currently planning.
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